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Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

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Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

#61

Very exciting news, as more people use autonomous vehicles, the less parking needs there will be and hopefully more parking lots can be reclaimed with plant life, that benefits the whole earth with better air and calming energy.

Parking lots, especially in cities like LA, are not going to be repurposed into green spaces if this comes to fruition

Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

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post #10

Very exciting news, as more people use autonomous vehicles, the less parking needs there will be and hopefully more parking lots can be reclaimed with plant life, that benefits the whole earth with better air and calming energy.

Especially in Los Angeles where 14% of land is for parking. https://la.curbed.com/2015/11/30/9895842/how-much-parking-lo... The air quality is particularly bad in LA too. If more people used WayMo EV’s there would be a noticeable difference. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/local-2/report-says-la-has-mos...

>air quality [...] If more people used WayMo EV’s there would be a noticeable difference.

How come? A car's emissions shouldn't change drastically whether it has a driver or not.

Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

#63
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The desirable parts of LA are tech heavy, just comes down to who can afford what right now But its good that people expect something else and that there is more variety in types of people

“desirable parts of LA are tech heavy” This is very subjective and depends heavily on the definitions of “desirable” and “LA”.

that's true

aside from such a wide range of parts, there is also a wide discrepancy in what LA natives do and care about, compared to what transplants do and make reference to. almost no overlap.

I think we can correlate what I'm referring to with the monthly rent though

Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially in Los Angeles where 14% of land is for parking. https://la.curbed.com/2015/11/30/9895842/how-much-parking-lo... The air quality is particularly bad in LA too. If more people used WayMo EV’s there would be a noticeable difference. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/local-2/report-says-la-has-mos...

>air quality [...] If more people used WayMo EV’s there would be a noticeable difference. How come? A car's emissions shouldn't change drastically whether it has a driver or not.

> EVs

Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

#65
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially in Los Angeles where 14% of land is for parking. https://la.curbed.com/2015/11/30/9895842/how-much-parking-lo... The air quality is particularly bad in LA too. If more people used WayMo EV’s there would be a noticeable difference. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/local-2/report-says-la-has-mos...

>air quality [...] If more people used WayMo EV’s there would be a noticeable difference. How come? A car's emissions shouldn't change drastically whether it has a driver or not.

I think the emissions drop comes from the fact that they are EVs, not that they are autonomous.

Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's a funny way to say the next biggest place with 300 days of sun per year. Why does that matter?

Self driving cars don’t work in rain/snow

Correction: Tesla FSD doesn't work in rain or snow, or even for that matter all that well in regular daylight.

Cruise is slightly better than FSD, but not by much. It's prone to driving really slowly and phantom braking, but at least it doesn't swerve into light poles or oncoming traffic like FSD does.

Waymo works in rain.

Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

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post #57

Surprised that no one has done a covert challenge of Waymo vs FSD 10.69.2.3 in a side by side comparison? Does that video exist?

Probably not as it’s not a meaningful comparison. One is completely driverless (L4) and the other requires a driver with hands on the wheel ready to take over (L2). Removing the driver (safely and reliably) is like 99.99% of the problem in self driving.

That means FSD has to work only once for a YouTube video, but a Waymo has to work every single time as there’s no driver to rescue when things go wrong. So apples to oranges.

Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

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post #67
post #57

Surprised that no one has done a covert challenge of Waymo vs FSD 10.69.2.3 in a side by side comparison? Does that video exist?

Probably not as it’s not a meaningful comparison. One is completely driverless (L4) and the other requires a driver with hands on the wheel ready to take over (L2). Removing the driver (safely and reliably) is like 99.99% of the problem in self driving. That means FSD has to work only once for a YouTube video, but a Waymo has to work every single time as there’s no driver to rescue when things go wrong. So apples to…

That's still a meaningful comparison as it would highlight the disparity between FSD and Waymo.

Re: Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles

#70
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Houston, TX Surface parking: 21.3% Garage parking: 3.7%” Parking is 25%, which is a more apples to apples comparison. More garages in LA?

I'm assuming "surface parking" is mainly parking lots - and not counting street parking - which is close to half of all street & sidwalk surface area.

It doesn’t seem likely that parking is even half of street surface let alone street plus sidewalk.

That would require more parking width than travel lane width on any given segment with parking (to account for areas where parking is not permitted plus intersections). Few streets have less travel width than parking. Many have a multiple.

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