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The Rise of ‘Luxury Surveillance’

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Re: The Rise of ‘Luxury Surveillance’

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Post by staticautomatic »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #28
nostrademons wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly the state has an incentive to take this approach too: it's much cheaper. If you can monitor & enforce confinement without actually building any prisons, you don't need to budget for prisons, you don't need to operate prisons (or contract out to them), and you can avoid the political blowback of the prison/industrial complex. The limiting case for this is the Matrix or Metaverse, where everybody voluntar…

The state, unfortunately, does not have a great incentive to reduce costs; especially since a lot of prisons are run by for-profit entities.

…that are paid by the state.

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Post by devteambravo »

ewzimm wrote: post #5

If there were an Amazon Prison option, I wonder how many people would choose it. Need to serve time? Skip the cell and stay home with a robust suite of real-time behavior analytics to ensure compliance. Conversations are processed locally and scanned for restricted subjects with advanced AI. A special Amazon Prison store offers a full suite of approved products with automatic payments, accessible with Alexa, and cust…

Compared to a typical US prison, that sounds like a sweet deal. Y'all, we made Black Mirror

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Post by glitchc »

ewzimm wrote: post #5

If there were an Amazon Prison option, I wonder how many people would choose it. Need to serve time? Skip the cell and stay home with a robust suite of real-time behavior analytics to ensure compliance. Conversations are processed locally and scanned for restricted subjects with advanced AI. A special Amazon Prison store offers a full suite of approved products with automatic payments, accessible with Alexa, and cust…

You need to define home here. I sense an implicit assumption that this is a single family home with more than one bedroom. What is home for an undocumented migrant?

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Post by slt2021 »

yamtaddle wrote: post #12
sokoloff wrote: post #10

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If I had the choice to serve a sentence in real prison or Amazon Prison, I’m 100% on Team Jassy.

Almost anything would be worth it to avoid prolonged contact with other prisoners and prison guards.

Then prison as a punishment will stop becoming a punishment and will reduce incentive to abide by laws

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Post by yamtaddle »

slt2021 wrote: post #35
yamtaddle wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost anything would be worth it to avoid prolonged contact with other prisoners and prison guards.

Then prison as a punishment will stop becoming a punishment and will reduce incentive to abide by laws

You think... the threat of abuse and assault by inmates and guards is something we should keep around on purpose?

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Post by sneak »

DennisP wrote: post #22
pooper wrote: post #4

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I haven't read the article but I think the outrage is misplaced. There are people forced to wear a Islamic head dress. The solution is not to ban Islamic head dress. There are people forced into sex slavery and prostitution. The solution isn't to ban prostitution. There are people who are forced into an abortion. The solution is not to ban abortion. The solution to abuse cannot be curtailing of rights.

What about my neighbor's Ring doorbell, pointed at my front door from across the street?

I’m torn on this one; as a photographer and videographer I find the right to shoot or film anything I can see from a legal vantage point very near and dear to me.

We should always be legally allowed to film public places. Europe’s legislative approach to this is wrong, I think, but I see the problem. Perhaps we need different societal norms.

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Post by pclmulqdq »

staticautomatic wrote: post #31
radicaldreamer wrote: post #28

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The state, unfortunately, does not have a great incentive to reduce costs; especially since a lot of prisons are run by for-profit entities.

…that are paid by the state.

... and who pay politicians large sums of money to keep it that way.

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Post by BoorishBears »

slt2021 wrote: post #35
yamtaddle wrote: post #12

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Almost anything would be worth it to avoid prolonged contact with other prisoners and prison guards.

Then prison as a punishment will stop becoming a punishment and will reduce incentive to abide by laws

If how terrible prison is what backs your incentive to abide by laws, I'm worried.

Criminals generally don't expect to be caught, the quality of prison doesn't matter much if you're not planning on going there.

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