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RejoinEU – About UK to rejoin EU possibility (aka Reverse Brexit)

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Re: RejoinEU – About UK to rejoin EU possibility (aka Reverse Brexit)

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Post by yunruse »

In my personal politics, Brexit was a disaster to crown the Tories’ slow descent from covert stupidity to overt flip-flopping chaos.

That said, this site just lacks the appeal to me. The rickroll is cute, but it just underlines a website style which feels a bit unserious, and while I certainly think this sort of thing shouldn’t be dry and depressing, it does sort of undercut it (especially considering the privacy popup is full-screen on mobile, which is a design no-no in my eyes).

As much as I hate to say it, the best course of action is to lean into rhetoric on key data points, like the infamous “£350m to NHS” on the side of a bus. While the site clearly feels like a project of serious passion, it feels like it lacks any punchiness, any meaningful slogans, any real impetus. “We want our star back” as a slogan implies to me that this site’s focus is preaching to the converted, which will at best put people off and at worst distract people from ways they can actually encourage better UK-EU relations.

This isn’t something that will even be on the table for likely a good general election or three, but even still, it feels like a focus on figures with a minimalist style would be a better approach.

While Don’t Pay UK [1] sort of had a rough time, you can’t deny their website and approach to messaging is quite appealing, probably because they’ve been taking notes from the Civil Service’s own excellent design style for the gov.uk site [2]. Then it’s a case of re-injecting a bit of flair into the style, star-based or otherwise, rather than going all in on CSS animations that undercut the message.

[1] https://dontpay.uk

[2] https://design-system.service.gov.uk/

Re: RejoinEU – About UK to rejoin EU possibility (aka Reverse Brexit)

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Post by maverick74 »

rasz wrote: post #3

There is one snag in that plan. EU doesnt want UK back, at lest not for another 5-10 years.

I don't agree. I think IF UK says they want to get back into EU they'll say YES almost instantly. (ok, maybe a covenant or two... Like UK having to accept the euro, for example).

But, from my POV, UK is just too desirable and powerful.

(I don't belong to UK, by the way)

Re: RejoinEU – About UK to rejoin EU possibility (aka Reverse Brexit)

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Post by hyperman1 »

I wonder how the EU thinks about this.

There are clearly good sides. The UK is still a big and powerfull country, nobody wants Irish or Scottish political instability, and it's a great morale booster to have a leaver come back.

But the UK had plenty of dark sides. They always wanted an exception for everything, with the pound not being an euro the famous example. The UK firmly pushed the EU in the 'economic union' direction, so now the advocates of deeper political unification get a chance. There was the only-half-joke from Yes Minister about how the UK only joined because they couldn't break the EU from the outside.

I presume the UK has not really demonstrated what really happens outside the EU. First Covid and now Ukraine are 2 major excuses for bad news, so the pro-leavers can still claim they are right. The EU probably wants to see some more pain in the UK first, to convince other doubters. But not too much.

So while the UK probably could get back in, it might be on much less favorable terms than they had in the past and take a while.

Re: RejoinEU – About UK to rejoin EU possibility (aka Reverse Brexit)

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Post by maverick74 »

yunruse wrote: post #2

In my personal politics, Brexit was a disaster to crown the Tories’ slow descent from covert stupidity to overt flip-flopping chaos. That said, this site just lacks the appeal to me. The rickroll is cute, but it just underlines a website style which feels a bit unserious, and while I certainly think this sort of thing shouldn’t be dry and depressing, it does sort of undercut it (especially considering the privacy pop…

Yeah, those two pages are WAAAY better!!!

But, while a bit amateur-ish, it's a nice initiative.

I honestly didn't liked UK leaving EU. I believe EU - which I'm part of - got weakened by Brexit.

However, the worst part, I believe, was left for Britons... I don't think they really saw it coming!!!

They shoot themselves in the foot on that decision. (personal opinion, naturally)

Re: RejoinEU – About UK to rejoin EU possibility (aka Reverse Brexit)

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Post by pmyteh »

hyperman1 wrote: post #5

I wonder how the EU thinks about this. There are clearly good sides. The UK is still a big and powerfull country, nobody wants Irish or Scottish political instability, and it's a great morale booster to have a leaver come back. But the UK had plenty of dark sides. They always wanted an exception for everything, with the pound not being an euro the famous example. The UK firmly pushed the EU in the 'economic union' di…

My intuition is 'yes, of course, but you don't get the opt-outs back'. So no budget rebate, Euro participation etc. Which would be a tougher sell in Britain than otherwise. I expect customs union re-entry in due course followed by single market membership (which is pretty much all upside for the EU side) and long discussions about rejoining the political institutions.

But nothing for the rest of this parliament or the next, probably. Starmer's not bold and/or reckless enough.

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