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Re: Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids

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You're not gonna read all these comments, are you? Hope you will still have luck, but in the meantime - sorry if it sounds harsh but seems like quickest way to communicate it - if you are not ok with yourself and with your life, I don't think you want to have kids. It's like a polish proverb regarding relationships: don't try to find a girl who will make you happy, find the happiness within yourself and then some gir…

The wisdom post from comboy is the bitter truth.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids

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A few posts here are suggesting that it's not too late. Perhaps so, but the way are describing yourself is worrisome, in a way that I think if you attempted to have kids (either biologically or through adoption), your stress levels would reach new heights that are unsustainable. You are depressed, anxious, and have lost sight of what you want out of life. I don't know if kids are the bandage here. At the least, you n…

A lot of comments here are along the lines of, “how you’re feeling is not really about what you think it’s about.” I think that’s very dismissive. Just because some others can’t relate, that doesn’t mean what you feel is not valid. We are biological beings, and the drive to procreate is very strong. It is existential. Some feel it more than others. I am very sorry for what you’re going through.

I really don't agree. Going from one extreme of not wanting kids to waking up in the middle of the night with panic attacks caused by the idea of not having them? Hell, hints of borderline suicide ideation? That looks like a significant struggle with mental illness to me.

Forty is often that turning point in life where the end starts to look closer to the beginning. You have a lot more of your life to look back at and less to look forward to. We joke about mid-life crises, but they're a real thing.

The OP sure sounds to me like they're going through exactly that, and children have become a fixation.

And if they're struggling with anxiety and depression now, I can't imagine what they'd go through as a parent.

At minimum, they should not be making any decisions until they get a little healthier. First, it's very unlikely any decision they take, today, would be rational. And second, if they did choose to become a parent, they'd be doing so at a time when they're incredibly mentally and emotionally fragile, which is a recipe for disaster.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids

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This is not about kids. You are mentally ill in a serious way. The the therapy you have gotten so far is either incompetent or you are so sick that you need time in an institution where your tragedy can be treated seriously. I know a number of people who chose not to have children. Some have some level of regret but nobody is going through the kind of dysfunction you are. You have a lot of years left. (Also, please d…

There is enough anxiety here, that if he got kids it would probably just switch to something else. This person needs much better help.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids

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To take a different perspective, I try to remember some argue we've overshot population: https://scientistswarning.forestry.oregonstate.edu/sites/def... , and honestly get leary at seeing how friends are raising kids. One of my friends works with tutoring kids all day and very consciously had a vasectomy after finding a partner. Why not partner with your spouse on something like ecosystem restoration? https://happenf…

> we issue a global appeal for women and men to have at most one child

Let's wait another 20 years and see how the results of such a policy pan out for China. They've already back tracked on it (their current policy is 3 children as of 2021) but the damage is done. I'm hoping for a relatively soft landing, a complete implosion of Chinese society would be a humanitarian catastrophe.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids

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A few posts here are suggesting that it's not too late. Perhaps so, but the way are describing yourself is worrisome, in a way that I think if you attempted to have kids (either biologically or through adoption), your stress levels would reach new heights that are unsustainable. You are depressed, anxious, and have lost sight of what you want out of life. I don't know if kids are the bandage here. At the least, you n…

This seems like a classic midlife crisis filtered through a different lens. My wife and I missed our window to have children as well, but the solution wasn't to attempt to rewind the clock and "hack" the situation. (though that was almost attempted). The key here is to accept things you have no control over and identify the ones you do - and then control those. Meaning can be found in many forms and not having kids actually frees one up to do a lot of things.

To OP: This opportunity can be leveraged even though it wasn't necessarily the situation you thought you would be in at this age. Life is funny that way.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids

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post #119

You're not gonna read all these comments, are you? Hope you will still have luck, but in the meantime - sorry if it sounds harsh but seems like quickest way to communicate it - if you are not ok with yourself and with your life, I don't think you want to have kids. It's like a polish proverb regarding relationships: don't try to find a girl who will make you happy, find the happiness within yourself and then some gir…

There’s some truth here, but the fact is we are all lost or deluded to some extent.

The idea that we must perfect ourselves before we enter a relationship with others is common in internet advice and frankly wrong. One of the main ways we heal and grow as people is through relationships. Relationships test us and can be a vital mirror, showing us things that would be otherwise invisible. They are also an incentive to do better for the good of others in our lives. Finally, they give us the chance to heal others similarly, our partners are never perfect either.

Does that mean that having kids will solve your problems? Of course not. The idea that you should be ok with or without kids is also fraught. It’s a question of degree, perhaps being obsessed with having kids is bad, but wanting them and being disappointed in not having them is fine.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids

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post #130

A few posts here are suggesting that it's not too late. Perhaps so, but the way are describing yourself is worrisome, in a way that I think if you attempted to have kids (either biologically or through adoption), your stress levels would reach new heights that are unsustainable. You are depressed, anxious, and have lost sight of what you want out of life. I don't know if kids are the bandage here. At the least, you n…

A lot of comments here are along the lines of, “how you’re feeling is not really about what you think it’s about.” I think that’s very dismissive. Just because some others can’t relate, that doesn’t mean what you feel is not valid. We are biological beings, and the drive to procreate is very strong. It is existential. Some feel it more than others. I am very sorry for what you’re going through.

I agree 100%. As I got older and my father died and other older family members I realized that I was taking for granted my family and all of the energy around me it generated. The things that made me happy such as working, traveling and hobbies felt like they needed more. Also this is weird but just seeing guys locked up in prison that were the coldest people that ever existed weeping over their kids really got me feeling it was something special.

It is something special. I have a kid now and another coming in the next few weeks. It is both the most time consuming and expensive thing I can do but also the most meaningful. I never thought I would feel this way 5 years ago. It is definitely dismissive to tell someone hey your feelings are rooted in other problems. It is not like OP is longing for a cupcake or something. So I support the OP and if it is really something you need, do it!

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