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Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by mlindner »

Thlom wrote: post #256
mlindner wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> SpaceX shouldn’t have been allowed to insert themselves in the conflict. Except Starlink has become critical for the military in Ukraine. It's used extensively to live stream drone footage from the frontlines to command locations over things like google hangouts. There's videos of this which is why we know. It also works without any infrastructure when it's all been destroyed has has been critical in getting cell s…

I’m sorry if I was unclear. I do not mean spaceX should stay away, but that they should operate through normal routes. It might take a bit longer, but should make this ongoing drama less likely to happen.

What do you mean "normal routes"?

Also time is of the essence during war. Viasat which had been the primary satellite communication method of the Ukrainian military was completely knocked out with many viasat terminals across Europe irreparably destroyed by Russian cyberattack when the war broke out.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by mlindner »

april_22 wrote: post #334

I wonder if this also means future astronauts will have wifi when launching to moon/mars. Imagine watching watching a movie while taking off to somewhere distant

Starlink antennas only aim downward so no it can't even be used to talk to other satellites/spacecraft, let alone the moon. Though there are planned tests to try to link to the network via the laser connections, but that would require being relatively nearby, at least with the current design.

Also even if it was facing upwards, the entire reason why they're using LEO satellites is to get low latency to get network performance similar to what you get with terrestrial service. If you're far away from the Earth then none of that is true.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by 1023bytes »

april_22 wrote: post #334

I wonder if this also means future astronauts will have wifi when launching to moon/mars. Imagine watching watching a movie while taking off to somewhere distant

Mars is 3 minutes away at the speed of light at it's closest. So e-mails at best.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by chrisseaton »

april_22 wrote: post #334

I wonder if this also means future astronauts will have wifi when launching to moon/mars. Imagine watching watching a movie while taking off to somewhere distant

> Imagine watching watching a movie while taking off to somewhere distant

A movie is only a few GB - you can already store them locally on your phone.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by mlindner »

ceejayoz wrote: post #331
panick21_ wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everybody getting PreCheck and all those other features is basically lessening security, but only if you pay.

It’s not lessening security.

It's certainly lessening privacy at the very least. Government sanctioned spying in exchange for saving a few minutes.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by april_22 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #344
april_22 wrote: post #334

I wonder if this also means future astronauts will have wifi when launching to moon/mars. Imagine watching watching a movie while taking off to somewhere distant

> Imagine watching watching a movie while taking off to somewhere distant A movie is only a few GB - you can already store them locally on your phone.

Haha sorry my bad

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by mlindner »

petesergeant wrote: post #102
amacalac wrote: post #2

Low latency for Video Calls? Sure, great on private charter jets where it’s you or a couple of people who know each other. Also, generally in favour of the march of technology, so I love this. Do Not Ever want on a flight where I’m sitting beside some random ass stranger who will chat or video chat to whoever at the top of their voice while I’m trying to relax.

This is already theoretically an issue. I'm going to link to Alaska Air's FAQ[0] simply because it's the most available online who note that streaming services are OK, but they don't "allow guests to make voice or video calls". I imagine the latency would make it a poor experience _too_, but the point is that airlines know you don't want people making calls next to you. [0] https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-in…

Do note the latency issues don't apply to Starlink. That's only a problem with geostationary satellites that are used by all other providers. Starlink has roughly equivalent latency to a terrestrial commercial wifi/cell service.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by sandworm101 »

miduil wrote: post #339
april_22 wrote: post #334

I wonder if this also means future astronauts will have wifi when launching to moon/mars. Imagine watching watching a movie while taking off to somewhere distant

This kinda implies we haven't invented local storage yet

Shhh. Local storage is a secret. The modern internet economy is based on profiting from "on demand" content delivered over a connection that can be monitized... and cut off for non-payment. Privately-hosted content like CDs or hard drives will soon be outlawed. Buy a NAS now while ypu still can.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by OJFord »

april_22 wrote: post #334

I wonder if this also means future astronauts will have wifi when launching to moon/mars. Imagine watching watching a movie while taking off to somewhere distant

You could just.. not stream it?

Like large planes on long distance routes (at least) have shown films for decades, and we watched films from discs or cassettes at home before broadband internet.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Post by kilroy123 »

Slightly off-topic.

I hate that internet is becoming more common on flights. One of my favorite things about flying is that it's a good chunk of time where you disconnect and don't worry about emails or messages.

Just sit back and watch a movie or listen to music. Or catch up on sleep.

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