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Not sure that can be said as a blanket statement for the whole of Europe. In the UK SMS isn't common at all anymore.
Not common isn't quite right. Ofcom's report shows that SMS use is shrinking, but it is still an average of 51 messages per user per month. Source https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/222401/... SMS decline is probably inevitable though.
That should have been written into the blog post. Not the current tasteless PR.
This is genuine; the PR messages are for businesses and shareholders; especially for publically traded companies, they have to be Very Careful with what they say in public.
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SMS is still rather common here in Europe. Even if a ton of people use whatsapp and such SMS is often a safe option to initiate with or something trough which you get certain kinds of automated messages like appointment reminders or verification codes.
I really hope SMS keeps on going - it's as a solid of a protocol as email is - no matter where you are, as long as there is a mobile network, you can send a text message.
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Why are you people always so proud of having all your communication owned by Meta? With Meta dictating which phones you can use to communicate with others?
Where are you getting the idea from that "we" are proud of our communication being controlled by a commercial party? I'm pretty sure most people are not proud, but either poorly informed or not willing to make the trade off for more security while losing half their social network.
It happens in iMessage and RCS threads as well.
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SMS is still rather common here in Europe. Even if a ton of people use whatsapp and such SMS is often a safe option to initiate with or something trough which you get certain kinds of automated messages like appointment reminders or verification codes.
I really hope SMS keeps on going - it's as a solid of a protocol as email is - no matter where you are, as long as there is a mobile network, you can send a text message.
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SMS is still used in France too. > I don't get it how having a dozen of messaging apps and remembering who uses what is better than a simple SMS Indeed, especially now that Telegram is taking off by times in Europe (in Belgium / Spain / France at least Telegram is getting used by a lot of people) and that some people now refuse to use WhatsApp. In addition to appointment reminders from doctor/dentist/notary/whatever…
> Indeed, especially now that Telegram is taking off by times in Europe (in Belgium / Spain / France at least Telegram is getting used by a lot of people) Interesting, here in Germany, almost everyone I know has Signal and WhatsApp with some people using only one of them. Telegram I encountered from one US American living here, and from people into conspiracy theories.
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Problem is Signal people had really odd visions how to make basic functionality work. This isn't really because SMS/MMS are bad(yes they are). But there are threads in their issue tracker where Signal people would disagree with basically functionality of responding to text messages on dual sim devices. "We'll always use the Signal registered number as default". One part of this is a terrible(but working) protocol, th…
One thing you need to keep in mind is that if you want an app with strong security, the less code you have, the easier it is to achieve the goal. By definition, Signal is not going to have bells and whistles and niche features, to keep the codebase lean and easier to avoid security weaknesses. If you want an app with many features, use Telegram. (They did however ship emoji reactions in Signal because most people act…
I don't think the reasoning for their implementation is as well thought out as you claim here.
Can someone ELI5 the RCS thing for me? I don't get it... From the answer and the wikipedia page it sounds like this might be a decision that the other side's client (SIM? carrier?) makes, to reply via RCS. And my device would be able to receive this only via data connection? Or would my carrier detect that I'm not currently in 4G covered area (middle of Germany for example...) and send the text via regular SMS? I'm a…
RCS - and VoLTE for example - is in this way no different. It's just a data message that gets sent to a configured endpoint (either on Google or your carriers' servers, depending on your carrier preference).
Of course, the carriers still remain the dumbass link in this chain as usual. I've just had to deal with a carrier that charges VoLTE call configuration setup connection as normal foreign data roaming with minimum pricing. The phone ate through 30EUR of costs despite having mobile data disabled.
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> Indeed, especially now that Telegram is taking off by times in Europe (in Belgium / Spain / France at least Telegram is getting used by a lot of people) Interesting, here in Germany, almost everyone I know has Signal and WhatsApp with some people using only one of them. Telegram I encountered from one US American living here, and from people into conspiracy theories.
When you're making these claims... are you actually looking at any aggregate survey or numbers... or are you doing the typical biased bubble "I've looked at 15 people I know" thing?
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I'm on a prepaid plan. I had the maximum plan (unlimited data, unlimited voice) for two decades but with home office, I spend most time indoors so I've switched to a Some months my data volume doesn't last till the end of the month. I use SMS instead of the Signal protocol then. Yes I might be a minority, but if you're not the market leader, cutting out minority groups of users will not make you more successful. What…
Your data is completely switched off when you run out? In Europe it would be illegal to market this tariff as a "flatrate" and typically data plans are just reduced in bandwidth once your volume is used up.
"Reduced" is a very kind characterization, even if it's literally true - in my experience (with Vodafone and Three) this means ~64kbps which makes even messaging apps functionally unusable.
Since I started traveling more, I use my eSim slot for a ~7€ data-only plan from one of the discount MVNOs just to avoid being caught in this situation.