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Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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When the iPhone launched, Apple talked a lot about how the typing system worked. What I remember is that it sounded like pretty simple lookups. As you typed, the software compared your word to, essentially, a weighted dictionary to guess what you were going to type next. If you typed “b” it was flummoxed. But if you typed “behav” it knew the next letter was almost certainly going to be “e” or “i” (for behavior). It m…

Reminds me of how much worse siri is getting every year, where it bit flips what I say to the opposite. Makes me think they're using ML models for everything which never gets anything right with %99.9 accuracy. "Hey siri turn off the bedroom lights", "Ok, turning on the bedroom". Recently tried alexa again with an old echo dot and it worked way better with basic things like I remembered it. Super sad.

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Totally agree about cursor scrolling. Half the time, it has no idea where my finger is. Since I discovered Apple’s slide-to-type[0], I rarely have to key the letters, since the algo guesses more accurately than when I actually use individual keystrokes. Also, with stt, the delete erases the whole word, so corrections are faster, too. [0] https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/how-to-use-the-iphones-new-...

This. However if I do not hit space in between words every time, an autocorrect function replaces at random times the word I’m typing/sliding now plus the word I typed before by some utter nonsense combination. I hate this so much, but I have not found a way to turn it off. Autocorrect is off.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Sometimes I’d type out a correct spelling of a word and it’d correct it to another word that’s totally unrelated to the context of the sentence, like your Quake example. Infuriating when in a rush.

For me it always turns “well” into “we’ll”. I have no idea why. I rarely type in the second person, and grammatically they’re not substitutes. It’s maddening.

And evidently I'm not allowed to swear. "Fuck" gets unfailingly "corrected" to "duck" -- even if I spell it out.

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Hard agree. One of my biggest pet peeves is how the iPhone will correctly guess a swiped word and then change the prior word to an incorrect guess when the next word is swiped. Now you have to look at both the word that was just guessed and the word immediately preceding it.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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This gets exacerbated if you are using a different language, like we Indians do. Type Hindi/Kannada/Tamil in English. Your autocorrect/predict word steers in the direction of most frequently used language and screws up all your pure english comms. Can still live with autocorrect but absolutely hate this ML based predictive nonsense, and I have completely disabled it.

In my experience suggestions also depend on the selected keyboard. When I type German on the English keyboad, autocorrect is terrible. I tried switching keyboards for a while but that did not work for me. The reason is that the placement of common letters (a to z) is subtly different between layouts and that skyrockets the error rate of my typing.

Does the iPhone not have an easy way to switch between keyboards? I just swipe left/right on the space bar to switch between Norwegian and English keyboards - but my phone isn't an iphone.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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[Typed on an iPhone]

I think this may be false memories. The iPhone keyboard was utterly miraculous back in 2008 and was improved upon with software revisions and larger screens.

I really think that 14 years later we’ve all forgotten how magical it is that capacitive touch keyboards work as well as they do. Now that we no longer see it as magic we have less patience for it whenever it does the wrong thing.

As far as I can tell, typing on it right now, the current keyboard seems to me as good as it has ever been.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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For me it always turns “well” into “we’ll”. I have no idea why. I rarely type in the second person, and grammatically they’re not substitutes. It’s maddening.

For me [on Android, which is just as excerable] it's changing "has" to "had", which it does every fucking time. No matter how many times I change it back. I'll re-read what I've written and find I've been jumping between past and present tense like a grammatical kangaroo. One thing that could vastly improve the suggestions would be to only insert a proper noun if I've first tapped the shift key. Here again, Android h…

And how come neither Google nor Samsung keyboards capitalize the I? Really folks, you call that ML and also put it in your CV?

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Yup, same here and I'm on Android. I'm in my late-twenties and have spent most of my life on mobile devices and keyboards like most people here. Over the last couple of years I've been getting frustrated to no end by the exact things you're talking about. I always have to retype words, basic things get auto-corrected to capitalized, proper noun versions that make no sense in context, etc. I'm starting to think that the older folks that dictate their text via microphone have the right idea.
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