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Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Post by midoridensha »

snowwrestler wrote: post #39

When the iPhone launched, Apple talked a lot about how the typing system worked. What I remember is that it sounded like pretty simple lookups. As you typed, the software compared your word to, essentially, a weighted dictionary to guess what you were going to type next. If you typed “b” it was flummoxed. But if you typed “behav” it knew the next letter was almost certainly going to be “e” or “i” (for behavior). It m…

>At some point I recall Apple announcing that they had switched autocorrect to a full machine learning implementation.

>For example it just tried to sub-in “Quaker” for “quality” in the previous sentence. Why??

We need to organize and get a huge number of people to start sending text messages one day, using the autocorrect as it works, and not correcting the autocorrect. Just let it put whatever words it wants in there, and send those messages, no matter how nonsensical they are.

If everyone just does this for a week, it'll completely ruin these companies' ML models and they'll be forced to switch back to simpler autocorrect implementations that are actually useful.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#82

Post by climb_stealth »

modeless wrote: post #70
markus_zhang wrote: post #11

Vent: I'm on Android and still haven't seen a well done cursor scroll. It usually requires me to select the position accurately which is PITA. I wish there was a simple way to do that.

Can I also vent about the lack of undo? I consider undo one of the most essential features of any computing device. How is it still simply not supported on the most widely used computing platform?

There's nothing like the feeling after typing a whole paragraph and accidentally deleting it without any way to undo. :) Anything more than a sentence I type in a notes app because of that

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Post by browningstreet »

If machine learning worked, my iPhone could take a long string of letters and see that I’m invariably putting an “n” between words where a space should be and fix it for me.

Typing on my iPhone is my worst daily tech experience.

My worst weekly tech experience is my Amazon FireTV needing to be rebooted every time my cable internet blinks. That it can’t recover gracefully, like every other device in the house — including Amazon Echos — mystifies me.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#85

Post by spikej »

midoridensha wrote: post #81
snowwrestler wrote: post #39

When the iPhone launched, Apple talked a lot about how the typing system worked. What I remember is that it sounded like pretty simple lookups. As you typed, the software compared your word to, essentially, a weighted dictionary to guess what you were going to type next. If you typed “b” it was flummoxed. But if you typed “behav” it knew the next letter was almost certainly going to be “e” or “i” (for behavior). It m…

>At some point I recall Apple announcing that they had switched autocorrect to a full machine learning implementation. >For example it just tried to sub-in “Quaker” for “quality” in the previous sentence. Why?? We need to organize and get a huge number of people to start sending text messages one day, using the autocorrect as it works, and not correcting the autocorrect . Just let it put whatever words it wants in th…

My 2 and 5 year olds do this every night after talking to grandparents. The paragraphs they produce are pure nonsense

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#88

Post by tejado »

jacquesc wrote: post #83

I just wish I could make iOS turn off the stupid "." shortcut they attach to the spacebar. All my google searches look like "how.do i.find.a better.phone"?

I always thought I’m too stupid to search correctly. I have exactly the same issue.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Post by ouid »

relatedly, the back arrow on top of the contact card in imessage has been changed so that the region to the left of the arrow is just more contact card. I can't imagine that anyone would intentionally click there to open the contact card, and I also can't imagine that no one at apple tested the design and didn't accidentally click the contact card at least once and realize.

Using phones is a bad experience.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Post by margalabargala »

midoridensha wrote: post #81
snowwrestler wrote: post #39

When the iPhone launched, Apple talked a lot about how the typing system worked. What I remember is that it sounded like pretty simple lookups. As you typed, the software compared your word to, essentially, a weighted dictionary to guess what you were going to type next. If you typed “b” it was flummoxed. But if you typed “behav” it knew the next letter was almost certainly going to be “e” or “i” (for behavior). It m…

>At some point I recall Apple announcing that they had switched autocorrect to a full machine learning implementation. >For example it just tried to sub-in “Quaker” for “quality” in the previous sentence. Why?? We need to organize and get a huge number of people to start sending text messages one day, using the autocorrect as it works, and not correcting the autocorrect . Just let it put whatever words it wants in th…

What difference would this make? Using the ML model's output as input would merely make the model think it is indeed correct.

The ML models would not be ruined beyond how they already are. And if their current state is insufficient to force anything, this would just be more of the same.

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