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Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#31

I feel like something changed with autocorrect and the default correction is often wrong. And then sometimes I see myself getting a word auto corrected 3 times before I type it in a way that’s corrected properly, or I need to select the right suggestion manually. It feels like autocorrect stopped looking at the whole sentence for context and often just corrects to something that doesn’t make any sense. It didn’t use…

It’s some sort of oddity where v and b sometimes autocorrect add words. All sorts of weird behavior seem to happen. I also noticed the trend of it getting better then again worse

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#32
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hold spacebar on android and drag lefg/right lets you cursor scroll really easily.

Thanks. Doesn't work on my phone. I'll check it out in product forum.

iirc this is a google keyboard feature specifically; it was added sometime after the pixel 3 released, I think?

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#33
I'll add my old man rant that physical keyboards are terrible now, and I somewhat blame Apple. Everyone seems to want as flat a keyboard as possible which does look pretty stylish I'll admit, but is not as ergonomic as the old Dell cheapo membrane keyboards. It makes sense on a laptop, but not on a dedicated keyboard. I fully acknowledge that it might just be the era of keyboards I grew up with and prefer, and luckily I can still find the old ones I like at Goodwill for $3, so my cup runeth over anyway.

As for phone keyboards, I've never been great with them but typing on a glass screen is a bundle of compromises anyway, and I haven't noticed them any worse lately. I remember reading that the touch spots for the keys are actually dynamically changing under your fingers as you type based on context, so I wouldn't be surprised if something changed and bit you though.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#34
My name is not an English word and it’s been years but the phones (3 iPhones) have never been able to predict it correctly ever. They always predict some English word — even longer and shorter. I must have typed it a trillion times on my phone by now. But no, still not. It’s the same name on my iCloud and hence on my phone. In contact book obviously. In all the email accounts I’ve added. I have tried correcting it and accepting the suggestion in quotes. Doesn’t work. But no.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#36
I've been using iPhone >10 years and cannot agree more. One example: from iOS 7 (that flat UI), I began to make much more frequent typos than ever before. Before that, I didn't make much typo before the update even without looking at the keyboard but not anymore after the update. What I heard is that Apple did extensive studies on usability of virtual keyboard when it's launching iPhone and as a result keyboard visual on the screen was intentionally off from the actual layout based on actual typing patterns. And for some reason it seems they scrapped that idea, or at least changed it significantly. Don't know why. Maybe I'm an outlier and everyone else is happier with the change.

But this is just one example; almost every 2~3 years, I've experienced a noticeable level of degradation of my typing accuracy, though not as much as the iOS 7 change. I wonder if there's anyone else whose experience matches to mine.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#38
post #19

I turned off autocorrect a few years back, and noticed no change in recent years with that turned off. But the autocorrect experience was very bad and in my view caused more errors than it fixed

I’ve turned it off as well and go raw. It doesn’t work period when talking about new concepts. No issues so far. People are more forgiving about typos these days anyway.

Re: Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

#39
When the iPhone launched, Apple talked a lot about how the typing system worked.

What I remember is that it sounded like pretty simple lookups. As you typed, the software compared your word to, essentially, a weighted dictionary to guess what you were going to type next.

If you typed “b” it was flummoxed. But if you typed “behav” it knew the next letter was almost certainly going to be “e” or “i” (for behavior). It may have been more complicated than that, but probably not much. It was 2007 and the phone CPU was not powerful.

One interesting thing I remember is that they said the phone enlarged the touch targets for highly predicted next letters. For example it would be easier to type an “e” than a “w” after you had typed “behav”, because the tap boundary expanded around the “e”. Cool stuff!

And if you did type behavw and hit space, it would autocorrect to behave.

At some point I recall Apple announcing that they had switched autocorrect to a full machine learning implementation. Rather than a simple deterministic look-up, it was trained on a huge corpus of text, and reads the whole chunk of what you’ve written so far to make predictions. Everyone does this now, it’s how they deliver the (incredibly annoying and stupid IMO) one-tap suggestions for email and text replies. “Thanks!” “Noted.” “I’ll get right on that.”

In my memory, that’s when typing got a lot more annoying on iPhones. The quality of suggestions went either down or weirdo or both. For example it just tried to sub-in “Quaker” for “quality” in the previous sentence. Why??

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