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Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by dijit »

kstrauser wrote: post #500
musictubes wrote: post #323

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I keep hearing about the desire for developer tools on an ipad and I just don’t get it. The entirety of iPadOS would need to be overhauled in order for it to be conducive for developer work. What is the appeal of doing dev work on a touch based UI with limited access to the file system on a cramped screen? The Mac is perfectly set up for that work.

I have a Smart Keyboard Folio case, which is super slim and light. My 12.9" 2018 iPad Pro is smaller and light but still has a good keyboard feel. (Note: I have a mechanical keyboard on my home Mac, but can still type like a demon on the thin iPad keyboard. It's surprisingly ergonomic.) I know there's basically no chance I'll be able to run Emacs or VS Code on this portable little device any time soon, but if I could…

> VS Code

I have had the FOSS version of Gitpods working well on my iPad mini.. if that helps.

I know it's not local, and we're mainly talking about using the local power at our finger-tips.. but, it's an option.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by woojoo666 »

tshaddox wrote: post #234
lapcat wrote: post #15

I love how "Desktop-class apps" means extremely basic features available decades ago on desktop: "consistent undo and redo, a redesigned inline find-and-replace experience, a new document menu, customizable toolbars, and the ability to change file extensions, view folder size".

It seems reasonable for "desktop-class" to refer to the basic features that have typically distinguished desktop personal computers from alternatives like smartphones and tablets. What else would you expect "desktop-class" to mean?

well the Surface Pro runs full Windows

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by npunt »

tlyleung wrote: post #124
uses wrote: post #33

Pretty surprised they left the front camera on the side of the device. I can't figure out why they would think that makes sense after using it even once. It's so awkward trying to do a meeting and I have this weird camera angle coming from the corner of my face. The alternative is portrait orientation, which puts the camera really far from the center of the screen - feels like it's coming from above or below my face…

The camera on the new non-Pro iPad has moved from the side to the top though. Not sure why the inconsistency between models.

They're reusing the old enclosure so they save on tooling & parts.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by thih9 »

wilg wrote: post #457
roody15 wrote: post #210

I Work IT in a institution with 290 employees and have had 5 switch to iPad Pro's to "replace" their laptop. I am now 5 for 5 with all asking for their laptop back. iPadOS is nothing more than iPhoneOS renamed and the device is still too heavily crippled for desktop/laptop replacement. In my mini test case scenario I never said a word..simply the employee asked for iPad Pro.. I just handed it to them... waited... the…

I don't even understand the advantage of an iPad for non-drawing work. It's just a worse laptop with a too-small keyboard that can fall off and a square screen so it's not good to watch video on and an OS that doesn't do anything well. But Mac laptops are amazing, run all the same software, and don't have any of these problems.

Work is not always about content creation, some people work mostly by consuming content (reading websites, browsing photos, selecting movie clips, navigating PDFs, or something else) and iPad is great for consuming content.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by dubya »

uses wrote: post #33

Pretty surprised they left the front camera on the side of the device. I can't figure out why they would think that makes sense after using it even once. It's so awkward trying to do a meeting and I have this weird camera angle coming from the corner of my face. The alternative is portrait orientation, which puts the camera really far from the center of the screen - feels like it's coming from above or below my face…

The orientation is just a software problem. No reason Zoom et al can't have an option to crop to the right aspect ratio.

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Post by alistairSH »

wilg wrote: post #551
alistairSH wrote: post #518

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I have an iPad Pro M1 11" with the Magic Keyboard. It doesn't fall off or detach unexpectedly at all. And the keyboard size is close enough to "normal" that I don't notice for normal typing. The only thing I miss is a dedicated ESC key. All that said, it only replaced my personal laptop. I continue to use a 13" MBP at work.

But why do you prefer this over a laptop?

For personal use… I like the size, it’s a bit more portable than a 13” laptop (0.5lb lighter with Magic Keyboard, 2.7lb lighter on its own), smaller footprint). It does everything I need (surfing, streaming, email, FaceTime).

Would I be happy with a 13” MBA as my personal device? Sure. I basically flipped a coin - the iPad won because shiny new thing.

For work, inability to run Docker/VMs and install VSCode is a deal breaker.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by alistairSH »

cute_boi wrote: post #544
alistairSH wrote: post #514

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Google Docs updates would always ship with weird bugs Is that really an Apple problem? Sounds like Google is just lazy with QA on Apple devices. Did you try Numbers or Excel and have similar problems?

Or Safari is not a good browser.

I’ve been using Safari almost exclusively for 2 years with no problems. I did prefer Chrome for web page development, but I’m not doing that right now.

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Post by cassianoleal »

e40 wrote: post #138
agrippanux wrote: post #66

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Not to mention video calls (Google Meet, Zoom, Teams) kill the battery on an iPad. Google Meet in particular seems to be about 1% of battery a minute.

On the ARM versions? My M2 air uses very little battery for zoom (1+ hr about 10% or less, don't remember).

They are all ARM.

I have an iPad Pro with A15, and it holds battery better than my M1 MacBook Air on video calls. They are both great though, much better than any x64 devices I have ever had.

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Post by jiveturkey »

Terretta wrote: post #223
roody15 wrote: post #210

I Work IT in a institution with 290 employees and have had 5 switch to iPad Pro's to "replace" their laptop. I am now 5 for 5 with all asking for their laptop back. iPadOS is nothing more than iPhoneOS renamed and the device is still too heavily crippled for desktop/laptop replacement. In my mini test case scenario I never said a word..simply the employee asked for iPad Pro.. I just handed it to them... waited... the…

On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

> Instead of picking up where you left off, you just pick up and go.

Completely lost me. You don't logout, close all your windows, and so on, when you undock/unplug and go mobile. I never have a problem picking up and going with my laptop, then coming back to my desk right how I left it. And the 27" monitors (32" also common here) are far, far better for productivity and dev work than a 13" ipad HDR screen. iPad is a poor choice for a 2nd screen.

You can even create a separate workspace for when you detach. I don't do that myself but plenty of my colleagues do. (If you don't do that then sometimes a window re-homes itself if you resize or move it while undocked, thinking that is its new home.)

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by dubya »

knolan wrote: post #517

I’m probably going to get the 12.9” model. I’m a lecturer and it’ll be very useful for my teaching. Not so much for research where I’m working with stuff like Matlab and OpenFOAM and specialist Windows software for laboratory instruments. Currently I use my Mac and occasionally sidecar with an old 10.5” iPad Pro so I can annotate my mirrored slides while I go. It works but is awkward. When using a projector over HDMI…

The iPad with pencil is really useful for marking up student papers. I bought one during Covid when everything was being turned in online, but some students still prefer to turn in scans rather than paper.

The downside is that Apple doesn't support user accounts, so I won't use anything that everyone in my family shouldn't have access to. Grading only works because it's easy to log out of Canvas. A lot of the nifty features require you to be logged in with your Apple ID, and I'm just not buying an iPad for every family member who might like to use it sometimes.

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