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Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by asdff »

delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #93

As a commment on the /r/iPad subreddit said, Apple accidentally made the most future-proof devices with the 2018 iPad Pros. There is not a single app that makes full use of the increased CPU power of these new iPads. I own a 2018 11" iPP, and it has been a game-changer in the way I have studied. After buying it, I haven't printed a single sheet of paper for note-taking. It's also a much better Netflix device than my…

>After buying it, I haven't printed a single sheet of paper for note-taking.

OTOH you can buy a whole lot of $3 spiral notebooks for the price of an ipad pro

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by lotsofpulp »

rpastuszak wrote: post #503
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I gsuite good anywhere ? It's not good in the browser on desktop/laptop devices, certainly. I have noticed they cut tons of features from the iOS versions and keep you from using the site if they're installed (and maybe even if they're not? That's got to be how I ended up with them installed, I wouldn't have done it by choice), which is super annoying and makes no sense since I'm sure it's all the same webtech crap a…

>I gsuite good anywhere? It's not good in the browser on desktop/laptop devices, certainly. Re web-tech: All iPad/iOS browsers run a low-perf version of Safari under the hood. In my experience anything Google seems sluggish on Safari. Frankly, I think that a part of this is due to FUD (Safari is not slow). I still use FF and Safari for 99% of my browsing, but certain sites just require me to use Chrome.

I assume anything Google is extremely energy/processor/RAM intensive and only consider it as a last resort on battery powered devices.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by larrywright »

theshrike79 wrote: post #272
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Why do the support costs go to zero? I would think iPads would bring their own set of problems/hazards that laptops may not have.

It’s next to impossible to get an iPad to a non-working state. A creative user with a Windows laptop can do it easily unless it’s really tightly locked and controlled.

And sometimes Windows just does that on its own.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by cute_boi »

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I used the iPad Pro for about 2 years for nothing but productivity apps and it was overall pretty great. It wasn't without issue though, here's what I ran into: 1. I didn't run any dev tools on the iPad. That's insane. I used a laptop running macOS for that. 2. Google Docs updates would always ship with weird bugs, like if I'm editing a cell in a Google Sheet and hit space, the space wouldn't insert. 3. There's loads…

Google Docs updates would always ship with weird bugs Is that really an Apple problem? Sounds like Google is just lazy with QA on Apple devices. Did you try Numbers or Excel and have similar problems?

Or Safari is not a good browser.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by asdff »

Siira wrote: post #398
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I keep hearing about the desire for developer tools on an ipad and I just don’t get it. The entirety of iPadOS would need to be overhauled in order for it to be conducive for developer work. What is the appeal of doing dev work on a touch based UI with limited access to the file system on a cramped screen? The Mac is perfectly set up for that work.

An iPad is more portable than a Mac.

You are saving like a pound and a half

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by lotsofpulp »

scoopertrooper wrote: post #298
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On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

Thing that really kills iPad for me is the web browsing experience. I just find iOS Safari so limiting. It's also needlessly slow (considering M1). I suspect they have some optimisations designed for memory constrained devices like iPhone tuned in the same way for iPad. Also ad blocker support is limited. Oh and in a lot of video calling apps, if I try and browse something in Safari while the meeting is happening, th…

I prefer Safari on iOS and macOS because it is so limiting that I assume it is helping conserve battery. With Wipr content blocker, I never see ads and it is generally pretty fast.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by larrywright »

roody15 wrote: post #391
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iPads and Chromebooks are rapidly taking over education. Both K-12 and in college. I think the pandemic really accelerated things. A lot more students are using iPads, rather than paper notebooks.

Chromebooks won this battle.. handily.

My perception is that this is largely based on price. Not necessarily because it’s better.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by lotsofpulp »

asdff wrote: post #536
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I think the arguments is non-developers don't really need access to it. You aren't configuring anything or doing anything that needs access to the file system. You are simply interacting with documents and online systems/applications that you can do the same as on a laptop. Add the greater mobility and the iPad pro really is a better device for most people. However, as another commenter mentioned, these individuals w…

Thats kind of a poor argument that just self fulfils itself. If we mask things like the filesystem and the actual shell, then of course no one will really need to use it. If we unmask these things, maybe paradigms will shift and they will themselves use these things. IMO so few people know how to code because we have been abstracting it for years, not because its tough to do or anything like that. Plenty of things pe…

>Hard to get that exposure when a company decides it won't be possible for you,

The company decided it was not possible using a specific product. You decided to use a product where it was not possible.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

truncate wrote: post #527
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On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

I think for me a major bottleneck of using iPad as laptop is that the screen is still gonna be on heavier compared to keyboard, and the whole combo doesn't feel as solid and sturdy as a good laptop does. iPad feel more physically free in some ways (you can just use screen etc ...), and physically restrictive in others (doesn't feel like one big sturdy unit with keyboard). That all aside, as an engineer it's too restr…

People have been using MS Surface for years now. So top heaviness is generally not an issue that impacts productivity.

The magic keyboard works great. You can even get BT knock offs for 1/3 the price. Works fine on your lap.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by runjake »

Lots of iPad hate in the comments. But remember, if nobody wanted them, they wouldn't keep selling as well as they are.

If you have no interest in an iPad, don't buy one. For me, it's not going to replace my general purpose computers any time soon, but its great for reading or carrying around while on the go for short bursts of work (SSH/Mosh with Blink app, RDP with Microsoft Remote Desktop, VNC with Screens, etc).

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