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Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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But that's not official support. That's like saying that my 10 year old Nexus 7 can still be flashed with latest versions of custom ROMs so it's the longest supported tablet out there.

It's a computational device, it's normal to be able to install whatever OS you want on it. Apple is the outlier here.

I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just pointing out that when it comes to official support, Apple provides the longest out of all manufacturers.

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I have 2 perfectly working iPads except that they stopped getting OS updates, so are now basically electronic trash. I find myself becoming reluctant to support an ecosystem that generates such waste. I stopped purchasing MacBooks when they started gluing the battery.

What did you switch into? Apple has a record time of support for their devices. As for the battery glued in - again, what did you switch into, and how did it go? Aside from a few mishaps, Apple has the most long lasting laptops on the market.

> Apple has the most long lasting laptops on the market.

I am not sure about this. I have a ThinkPad from ten years ago that still runs up-to-date Linux.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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They finally killed the headphone jack in the plain-jane iPad, what a shame. I'm not exactly a tablet person -- my ereader suits me just fine for reading, which is all I'd want to do on a tablet, anyway -- but why do people put up with this? I understand that phones are small, and thus "hard" to fit the jack into... but why remove it from tablets?

They had to because it's impossible to water proof the iPad with a headphone jack, or because there's not enough space inside the device, I forgot what was the official reason they used for the iPhone. The unofficial reason is that no headphone port means more AirPod sales.

Lots of waterproof android phones on the market had a 3.5mm jack before their brand of wireless headphones was ready to upsell, which I think points pretty conclusively to the "unofficial" reason being the real reason.

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> Testing was conducted by Apple in September 2022 using preproduction iPad (10th generation) systems with the Apple A14 Bionic chip, as well as production MediaTek MT8768N-based Android tablet systems with the latest version of Android 11 available at the time of testing. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mediatek-MT8768-Processor-Benc... > The MediatekMT8768 is an entry level ARM SoC for smartphones (mainly Android bas…

Similar price. Fair comparison.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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post #199

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> but the environment is important to Apple Nobody even themselves believe that, it's 100% marketing, they wouldn't be shitting ten new devices with welded batteries per year if they cared

Its a very 1980s Soviet Union vibe. Sure, we have to say we believe all this stuff that nobody believes anymore, yeah.

In a way it is, but capitalism has been way more successful than the soviet's Pravda could have dreamed of

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Eeesh, I dunno. With an iPad costing about 50% more than a decent (e.g. Lenovo or Samsung) Android tablet, then I would absolutely go for the Apple product. My $450 8th gen iPad is a fantastic device. But if an iPad now costs 100%+ more than a decent Android tablet, then I think I'm being squeezed out here. A tablet is a not a laptop-replacement for me. It's a thing that I use to read books and watch movies laying in…

You can still get the 9th gen iPad at $329.

Even better would have been to get one of those last month when Costco was liquidating their stock for $270.

Almost nobody carries the "old model" in stock, always a good idea to pay attention when they lower the price to get rid of it ;)

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> Testing was conducted by Apple in September 2022 using preproduction iPad (10th generation) systems with the Apple A14 Bionic chip, as well as production MediaTek MT8768N-based Android tablet systems with the latest version of Android 11 available at the time of testing. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mediatek-MT8768-Processor-Benc... > The MediatekMT8768 is an entry level ARM SoC for smartphones (mainly Android bas…

Similar price. Fair comparison.

Here's an Android Tablet with that chip for £99 ($88 at current exchange rate). https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/tcl-tab-10s-32gb-10.2-inch-w...

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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So they only support Apple Pencil Gen 1, but remove the Lightning port which it requires for charging, so they sell you a dongle, but the environment is important to Apple. Okay. What's the point of the flat edges if you're not going to support the Apple Pencil Gen 2? I get that a company like Apple deals in massive scale, but this seems so off-putting as a consumer. Just merge the iPad Air and iPad lines already, th…

> but the environment is important to Apple Nobody even themselves believe that, it's 100% marketing, they wouldn't be shitting ten new devices with welded batteries per year if they cared

Are you ignoring the effort to clear their supply chain and own engineering of all sorts of chemicals known to be toxic during manufacture, use, and recycling/disposal?

It's been completed over 10 years ago easily.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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post #199

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Its a very 1980s Soviet Union vibe. Sure, we have to say we believe all this stuff that nobody believes anymore, yeah.

In a way it is, but capitalism has been way more successful than the soviet's Pravda could have dreamed of

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