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Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

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Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

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post #113

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From what I've seen, text. I've heard a lot of younger folks call gifs "cringe". It seems like a dead trend, even millennials I know have mostly stopped using them.

It seems like we've come full circle then. Maybe we can expect text emoticons (the ones with a hyphen for a nose) making a comeback soon.

They never went away, they just started being used ironically, but yeah, I do think we've already entered a post-ironic phase of text emotes

:-)

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

#122
post #53

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This is all the EUs fault. They were warned multiple times that they need to get home grown GIF supplies, instead of importing all their GIFs from the US or Russia. And now that the pipeline for dashcam videos is gone, what do they have? Nothing but a few PNGs that they sadly try to animate in a poor imitation of a GIF. (sarcasm gif goes here)

Excuse me, I feel compelled to point out that it's FIG in France.

Reminds me of UTC[1]. Maybe the compromise is to call it "IGF"?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time#Ety...

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

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post #92

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> On this basis, we consider that Facebook would also have an incentive to foreclose its rivals from access to GIPHY. That seems like a slightly more intelligent wording of the same bad argument to me. There’s no real limit on the supply of gifs on the internet, and they aren’t really in particularly high demand. In fact they’re already falling out of fashion with younger users. You’ll be hard pressed to find many pe…

There's no real limit to the supply of gifs on the internet, and yet Meta spent $600m on a website hosting third party gifs that made almost zero revenue. I don't think they were going to get very far with arguments that nobody cares about gifs... One the other hand, the owner of Giphy absolutely does get to limit which websites get to continue displaying the gifs that several years' of their user-generated content b…

> One the other hand, the owner of Giphy absolutely does get to limit which websites get to continue displaying the gifs that several years' of their user-generated content backlinked to Giphy.com

I guess my question would be so what? You can cache them on your own system, if you wanted. However, I doubt historical shit posts and reaction gifs have any real value to anyone. Frankly it seems laughable that Facebook paid $660m for Gify in the first place.

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

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post #94

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Meta is getting creamed by TikTok and the market in general without the need for regulation by European bureaucrats that you haven’t elected democratically. They could just as easy create regulations which are impossible for startups to follow that actually cement big tech into power unintentionally If you want more enforcement, vote in government in your own country. At least we might be able to fix that later.

I feel so much better that China’s state sponsored social media platform is what constitutes “competition”. Clearly no regulation needed here.

Weird they aren't getting regulated....

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

#125
post #64

> The regulator said Meta would be able to increase its “already significant market power” by cutting off the supply of gifs to rivals, or demand more user data from them in order to keep using Giphy. I’m imagining a future in which Meta cuts off the winter supply of GIFs to the European Union, setting the populace into a restive period of incoherent communication. Perhaps the EU, UK, and US should establish strategi…

The phrase "cutting off the supply of gifs to rivals" may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read in my life. I honestly can't believe someone wrote that in a legal opinion. To me this smacks of our leaders, broadly, in the West being too old and too far removed from how people operate and live in the world today. This is like Lindsey Graham, who was once on the senate technology committee, admitting that he had…

I laughed so hard when I read this. This is legitimately funnier than most things that are trying to be funny like sketches/standup.

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

#126
post #53

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This is all the EUs fault. They were warned multiple times that they need to get home grown GIF supplies, instead of importing all their GIFs from the US or Russia. And now that the pipeline for dashcam videos is gone, what do they have? Nothing but a few PNGs that they sadly try to animate in a poor imitation of a GIF. (sarcasm gif goes here)

Excuse me, I feel compelled to point out that it's FIG in France.

Theux UE teuc oueur FIGues!!!

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

#127
post #82

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Credit where credit is due, Meta / FB identified early on that people are moving on to mobile and acquired WhatsApp and Instagram at the right time (WhatsApp and Instagram are extremely popular with the young).

> WhatsApp and Instagram are extremely popular with the young were . Then came Snapchat and later TikTok. Instagram is declining in users, meanwhile WhatsApp is a cross-generational norm in some countries for whatever reason (it has atrocious UX).

People don't use TikTok to communicate with each other, Snapchat seems pretty stagnant.

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

#128

This is the funniest thing ever to me. Everyone who thinks about this for more than a moment realizes Giphy has never had any value at all. They might as well be licensing different types of burps.

If you think about it for more than 2 moments you will see that owning Giphy allows Facebook to see which chat apps you're using (via the api key for the app's Giphy integration) and who you're talking to on them (by attaching an id to each gif similar to how tracking pixels work in email.) Most chat clients automatically load images, triggering the tracker. This gives Facebook unprecedented visibility into the user…

Could you provide an example of a competitor app that integrates Giphy? It feels like a lot of people _think_ this is the explanation, but the chat apps I use defer gifs to the keyboard.

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

#129
post #123

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There's no real limit to the supply of gifs on the internet, and yet Meta spent $600m on a website hosting third party gifs that made almost zero revenue. I don't think they were going to get very far with arguments that nobody cares about gifs... One the other hand, the owner of Giphy absolutely does get to limit which websites get to continue displaying the gifs that several years' of their user-generated content b…

> One the other hand, the owner of Giphy absolutely does get to limit which websites get to continue displaying the gifs that several years' of their user-generated content backlinked to Giphy.com I guess my question would be so what? You can cache them on your own system, if you wanted. However, I doubt historical shit posts and reaction gifs have any real value to anyone. Frankly it seems laughable that Facebook pa…

> Frankly it seems laughable that Facebook paid $660m for Gify in the first place.

It's another vector for collecting user analytics.

Re: Meta to sell Giphy after UK watchdog confirms ruling

#130
post #76

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Sure, break them up, too. That would be great. The article under discussion is about Facebook.

And my response to the article is that there are way bigger fish to fry than splitting up a dying social media conglomerate. Google and Amazon are far more powerful and dominant than Meta and you know it. Sent from my Android phone through Chrome. BRB, I just got a package and I need to check my AWS config.

The dying social media conglomerate can be warmup before going after more powerful companies. Like a vaccine to stimulate the antitrust immune system, if you will.
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