I can't wait for the author of this thread to discover the AO3 tagging system, which is, frankly, a masterpiece that demonstrates how effective community management can lead to extremely good tagging and categorization, with very little miscategorization. https://www.wired.com/story/archive-of-our-own-fans-better-t... https://archiveofourown.org/faq/tags
I am endlessly fascinated with content tagging systems
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#12I can't wait for the author of this thread to discover the AO3 tagging system, which is, frankly, a masterpiece that demonstrates how effective community management can lead to extremely good tagging and categorization, with very little miscategorization. https://www.wired.com/story/archive-of-our-own-fans-better-t... https://archiveofourown.org/faq/tags
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#14All of this stuff (horse/horses etc) is extensively discussed, maybe look under "taxonomy" or "ontology".
Now, whether you want to use any of those solutions or not or find the discussion useful or not... if you aren't finding anything about it at all, you aren't looking in the right places.
(I learned about it in librarian school)
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#15This reminds me of a talk from Clay Shirky about categorization and general ontology. It's interesting to read in hindsight, because it's from when recommendation algorithms were in their infancy. Warning PDF: https://ia800203.us.archive.org/10/items/Ontology_is_Overrat... > This is what we're starting to see with del.icio.us, with Flickr, with systems that are allowing for and aggregating tags. The signal benefit of…
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#16In any case, I still think flat tag lists are better than a directory tree structure ("Content/Movies" vs "movies, movie, entertainment, science fiction, space travel, aliens").
A recent innovation that I'm enjoying is backlinks. I believe roam research was the first major player that showed you related entries via the links that you included, even though a similar concept existed forever. Then you can generate clouds of relationships and find concepts visually [0].
0: https://noduslabs.com/cases/visualize-connections-notes-roam...
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#17Anyone have a suggestion for a tagging filesystem that is maintained? Or if not a filesystem, something that at least works? I still feel like this is the best way to organize personal photos and media, and while https://www.tagsistant.net/ is pretty good it hasn't been updated in 6 years and is fairly buggy.
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#18> I can't find anything on how to design and implement anymore more than the barebones basics of a system. All of this stuff (horse/horses etc) is extensively discussed, maybe look under "taxonomy" or "ontology". Now, whether you want to use any of those solutions or not or find the discussion useful or not... if you aren't finding anything about it at all, you aren't looking in the right places. (I learned about it…
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#19I think tag aliases are fine, but in my opinion, tags should not have hierarchies. That is just opening the can of ontology worms, and most systems are ill-equipped to deal with ontologies...including ontological systems. Tags are just dumb strings which label data. They are basically KeyValues, where the value is just always equal to True. We don't think of KVs as hierarchical unless they are explicitly a path strin…
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#20I've been dabbling in personal knowledge bases for a long time now. I remember the when I discovered tags -- thought it was the best thing ever. The first good implementation in the wild (for me) was del.icio.us. Eventually I ran into all the problems that the linked thread describes. "Movie" or "movies"? "Book" or "books"? In any case, I still think flat tag lists are better than a directory tree structure ("Content…
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