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Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

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I use FF Android every day, including watching videos, and haven't noticed the "unstable garbage pile". Are you being hyperbolic?

Me too. It's my main browser on Android for years now and it works great.

Have you actually tried a different one lately? I tried Vivaldi and was astonished at how much snappier it is. No more weird crashes on launch. No more Desktop Mode button that breaks if you hit the Back button. No more failed attempts to dismiss a tab because using your phone in landscape mode made it adjust the swipe length to six damn inches long.

Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

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Okay. Can you please describe a theoretical attack?

1. X sniffs my connection. 2. X learns my address uses Firefox on Linux. 3. X sells the data to Y, whom I never visit. 4. Y correlates the IP with Z's subscriber data, and adds Linux to my shadow profile. As the sibling said, the burden of proof is on them. They are the ones who push that on users when there's no technical need.

Surely that same information is made available by visiting any website, no?

Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

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In Windows 3.11 you could choose all the colors you wanted for every part of the window rendering (and it wasn't called "limited edition" or whatever there either, and naming it limited edition in FF as in the image caption in the article doesn't inspire confidence to rely on this feature long term). Nothing recent comes close to that, even Linux desktops make it hard to choose colors or how visible your scrollbars a…

KDE definitely still lets you theme like crazy, I believe including the scroll bar settings The CSS comment sounds like Gnome. I used Gnome for fifteen years and got tired of what you're complaining about and switched to KDE eight or nine months ago and haven't looked back

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Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

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Mozilla & Firefox stop trying to be a god-damned social movement. Just be a fucking browser.

Why do people get so worked up about messaging that isn't targeted at them? Mozilla is trying to gain broad appeal beyond mom's basement. There's a certain group of people that this message resonates with.

Clearly not, based on browser trends over time. The real problem is that they aren't even able to keep the low hanging fruit (i.e. "Mom's basement" dwellers), let alone whoever this other audience is.

Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

#165

What I want to know is have Firefox fixed the show-stopper bug with their implementation of Private Windows yet ? In Firefox, if I login to something in one Private Window, and open a second Private Window, my session is maintained (e.g. login to Protonmail on one, I open a second private window and I'm already logged in). So I assume Firefox is sharing cookies and whatnot between Private Windows. Brave doesn't do th…

It's a miscommunication/misalignment of expectations. Private windows have privacy (more than non-private windows, at least), but they do not have privacy or isolation from each other. Unless you use add-ons, the isolation boundary is the profile. You need multiple profiles to keep them from sharing with each other. The main problem then, IMO, is that it is not well-supported for a user to use template profiles or au…

> It's a miscommunication/misalignment of expectations. Private windows have privacy (more than non-private windows, at least), but they do not have privacy or isolation from each other

Ok fine, but why can't it be a checkbox option in preferences ?

Why can't I tick a box that says "isolate private windows" ?

Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

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> The fact that Firefox got backdrop-blur support in mid 2022 speaks volumes about Firefox's priorities. Perhaps it speaks more to your priorities? I can't see anyone outside of a web developer who needed that feature 1 time or even caring that backdrop-blur wasn't implemented. The fact that you're salty about a specific CSS property and that it's reason enough to boycott a browser speaks volumes.

> Perhaps it speaks more to your priorities? I can't see anyone outside of a web developer who needed that feature 1 time or even caring that backdrop-blur wasn't implemented. The point is, if Firefox can't even make basic web features like blur work on the browser (that are available on even no name mobile browsers) I can't expect Firefox to ever surpass Chrome or other competitors and it's evident. > The fact that…

> Firefox can't even make basic web features like blur work on the browser

I wouldn't call backdrop-blur trivial or a basic feature. It's non-trivial to implement and used very little. Why should it be a priority?

> (that are available on even no name mobile browsers)

What no-name mobile browser that isn't based on an engine like Chromium has implemented more "basic" features than Firefox? The fact of the matter is that large corporations like Microsoft have given up trying to implement their own custom browser engine and pivoted to using Chromium.

> it doesn't support even the most basic features all other browsers have.

Like backdrop-blur?

> Fighting monopoly with an even better product that supports the ideology.

You're trivializing browser development as if you could build a better browser in a weekend.

Of the 4 major browsers developers only one isn't a billion/trillion dollar corporation; one uses it's monopoly in search to bankroll and push it's browser, one uses their monopoly position in smartphones to force their browser on users and restricts the feature set of it's browser so as not to detract from custom App development, one threw in the towel and just rebranded Chromium, and the last is a non-profit that's financially dependent on the other three for handouts.

Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

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My small wish is that FF on Android supports an intent that opens a URL in a new private tab. That way I'd be able to selectively open pages from HN, Reddit or other apps in private tabs—by the way of Tasker or Automate. I looked a bit through FF code, and there's an intent to open an empty private tab, but not an address. Alas, with my lack of knowledge about data flow in an Android app, I'm not of much help so far.

I'm super cognizant of the /dev/null that is bugzilla, but have you opened an issue about that? My stance is that I don't have influence over whether they ignore me, but I have more righteous indignation if I did, in fact, open a ticket and then they ignored me

Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

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Does it still have the cursed text with it that says "going away in (some month soon)". It's so stupid and confusing and baffling that I want to rage quit Firefox with this as the absolute last straw. Like wtf, you're gonna take back my color in a few months? Just pull the upsell for it? Why the hell am I having to wonder about any of this? Why on God's green earth was this done instead of spending any effort getting…

Counter argument: is it actually worth getting this upset over themes? Yes, the marketing behind it is stupid because it attempts to correlate some deeper symbolic meaning to the act of choosing colors for your web browser. But as a fellow Firefox advocate, I would rather Mozilla plays around with these sort of corny marketing concepts as a way of gaining market share rather than rely on Google's patronage ad-infinit…

I don't care about marketing. I care about being fucking confused what it means that a colorized theme of Firefox is "going away". I'm still confused and everyone seems to just dance around it. Wtaf!?

Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

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Does it still have the cursed text with it that says "going away in (some month soon)". It's so stupid and confusing and baffling that I want to rage quit Firefox with this as the absolute last straw. Like wtf, you're gonna take back my color in a few months? Just pull the upsell for it? Why the hell am I having to wonder about any of this? Why on God's green earth was this done instead of spending any effort getting…

Counter argument: is it actually worth getting this upset over themes? Yes, the marketing behind it is stupid because it attempts to correlate some deeper symbolic meaning to the act of choosing colors for your web browser. But as a fellow Firefox advocate, I would rather Mozilla plays around with these sort of corny marketing concepts as a way of gaining market share rather than rely on Google's patronage ad-infinit…

I used to use a colorway I liked. But every new Firefox installation I added to my Sync profile would erase the color scheme, and once Firefox removed their "limited-time colorway" I couldn't even install or sync the same theme to my newly setup computers. So I gave up on installing colorways on any of my computers.

Re: Firefox Private Browsing mode upgrade

#170

Got the upgrade a few days ago. I am loving it. I reside 12 hours a day within the private window itself and the ui looks quite nice now. The purple and all. Keep it up

Have you seen the browsing containers^1, including the self-destructing ones? I'm 100% not trying to lobby you out of private browsing, just wondering if you were using the mode that best fit your needs

Also, be aware that (unless something has radically changed) all private windows share state with one another, which to the very best of my knowledge isn't true for the browser containers

1: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/multi-account-conta... and https://github.com/mozilla/multi-account-containers#readme

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