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Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by skiman10 » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:18 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #76

This appears to be mostly a rebranded 2020 iPad Air, now available in multiple colors at $150 cheaper price point than when the Air was launched. https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-air-4th-g...

The camera is now side mounted and for some reason the new basic iPad only has 1st gen pencil support with an asinine $9 adapter to charge it. Oh and a non-laminated display on the basic iPad still.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQLU3AM/A/usb-c-to-apple-...

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by kgermino » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:19 PM UTC

sdeyerle wrote: post #78

Why hasn't the first-gen Apple Pencil died yet? This would be very compelling if it supported the second-gen Apple Pencil.

Dang I completely missed that. I assumed this was USB-C and pencil 2 and planned to order one for my wife once I figured out which color/model to buy, but I guess I’ll hold off a bit more :(

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by sheepybloke » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:20 PM UTC

Finally! One of my biggest disappointments during the last announcement cycle was that they didn't update the looks of the base model iPad. The old design was iconic, but looked very dated, which was frustrating since you would have to buy at least an Air to get a tablet from Apple that looked like it was modern. It also made recommending the base iPad hard, because while the ecosystem is the best ecosystem for a tablet, the tablet looked and felt so dated. A welcome refresh in my opinion!

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by alexanderchr » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:23 PM UTC

skiman10 wrote: post #81

tiffanyh wrote: post #76

This appears to be mostly a rebranded 2020 iPad Air, now available in multiple colors at $150 cheaper price point than when the Air was launched. https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-air-4th-g...

The camera is now side mounted and for some reason the new basic iPad only has 1st gen pencil support with an asinine $9 adapter to charge it. Oh and a non-laminated display on the basic iPad still. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQLU3AM/A/usb-c-to-apple-...

Maybe Apple still has a surplus of first gen pencils to get rid off?

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by formerly_proven » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:23 PM UTC

That’s a pretty massive price increase isn’t it? Worse for europoors: 350 EUR to ~550 EUR - 60 % (430 and 580 at Apple directly, 35 %)

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by tomjen3 » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:26 PM UTC

brundolf wrote: post #56

the_lucifer wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is this model still worse than the Air somehow even though its design has been updated? Yes, in a myriad of ways! This iPad doesn’t have a laminated touchscreen, and it still uses the Gen. 1 Apple Pencil weirdly so no magnets and you need a type c to lightning adapter to charge it up.

Lol wow, I thought that was a typo but you're right: > Apple Pencil (1st generation) is compatible with the new iPad. A new USB-C to Apple Pencil Adapter is required for pairing and charging and is included in the box with a new version of Apple Pencil (1st generation) for $99 (US). I didn't think they even still made the first-gen Apple Pencil So now we get to explain to grandma why this will work with some Apple Pe…

Lol, good catch. I was waiting for the upgrade specifically for the upgraded pencil support.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by pooper » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:27 PM UTC

formerly_proven wrote: post #85

That’s a pretty massive price increase isn’t it? Worse for europoors: 350 EUR to ~550 EUR - 60 % (430 and 580 at Apple directly, 35 %)

I would be OK with it if the Wi Fi only non cellular version came with GPS but once again GPS is limited to cellular only.

Is there any reason to do this besides price discrimination?

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by shadowfacts » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:29 PM UTC

I “like” how Apple makes a better keyboard/trackpad case for the cheap iPad than for the Pro.

The new Magic Keyboard Folio:

  - has a trackpad
  - has media keys
  - can lie flat on a table without having to remove the case

The Magic Keyboard (the floaty one):

  - has a trackpad
  - does not have media keys
  - cannot lie flat

The Smart Keyboard Folio:

  - does not have a trackpad
  - does not have media keys
  - can lie flat

So if you have a Pro you have to pick between being able to easily write on the thing and having a trackpad available.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by garyfirestorm » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:30 PM UTC

shadowfacts wrote: post #88

I “like” how Apple makes a better keyboard/trackpad case for the cheap iPad than for the Pro. The new Magic Keyboard Folio: - has a trackpad - has media keys - can lie flat on a table without having to remove the case The Magic Keyboard (the floaty one): - has a trackpad - does not have media keys - cannot lie flat The Smart Keyboard Folio: - does not have a trackpad - does not have media keys - can lie flat So if yo…

I recently got a logitech combo case. it works great with pro.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by tomjen3 » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 4:30 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #27

> USB-C Nice! Please, the iPhone next. Ditch the legacy and outdated lightning jack.

I hate this idea. I am not going to throw out my keyboard, earbuds, touchpad, iphone, etc just so that they will all have USB-C connections.

Given that, it will take me at least 5 years to replace everything so I only need to use USB-C cables. 5 years where I will have to use two different sets of cables.