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Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

Teacher's core competency is teaching. They study it for years, practice it for years, in a system tuned over time. You have never done it before. You really think you can do better?

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

> never outsource your core competency

I chose a middle-of-the-road approach: the schools can teach them socialization skills that I can't, but I can be their full-time tutor when tests come along. That does mean you'll need to spend time re-acquainting yourself with long-forgotten high-school algebra, though.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Story time, kind of related to the title but you may find it amusing.

I had an older Russian teacher, heavy accent, knew his stuff fairly well, worked for few big Corps. He was teaching data structures. We had this fairly attractive girl in our class, 30 guys and I think 2-3 girls. There was this guy, let's call him "Bob". Bob was sitting next to that girl. That girl has used Bob for most of her homeworks and quizzes. Bob was really into her, it wasn't mutual though. Then, the midterm came. She was in trouble, as she had barely done any work and she had 0 understanding of material. Well, after Bob finished his midterm, they switched papers. Bob changed some variable names, and according to him added a few small mistakes.

2 weeks later Bob got a 'C' and the girl got an 'A'. Bob, loudly said "FUCK" in class and we all were cracking up. Teacher was a bit spooked too, since everyone was whispering about it. Bob stopped talking to her. I think she stopped attending the class. I am honestly not sure if anyone went to the dept. head, as the behavior between the teacher, girl and bob got really awkward.

I hope Bob is doing well, he was nice just a bit naive.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

> In business, Your kids aren't a business, life isn't a business, we should stop trying to optimise everything as if it was a startup, you're already outsourcing 99.9% of your life anyways Home schooling properly isn't easy, you'll infuses your biases deep into your kids without even noticing it, unless you country's schools are dogshit I'd let them go there

I want my kids infused with my "deep biases," and not the deep biases of a corrupt public school system, thank you.

Homeschooling is a feature, not a bug.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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I worked as a teacher for a little while. Discount my anecdote if you like, but it always seemed to me that girls are more likely to be grade grubbers than boys. (For those unfamiliar with the idiom, it means someone who pleads to the teacher to be given a higher grade. I don't know if there's a word in Italian.)

Kinda related, but I remember a girl was able to lobby her English teacher to round up her 92.5 grade to a 93, since, you know 92.5 rounds to 93, and the range for an A was 93-100. Then something similar happened in the math class, and teacher rolled his eyes, and drew a number line on the board and drew a point of the 92.5 outside the 93-100 range.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

It's important to distinguish between a core competency and something of extreme importance. Obviously education is extremely important but that doesn't mean a parent will inherently be any good at doing it, other than of course caring a lot, which may or may not help depending on how that energy is channeled.

I know this is coming from a viewpoint that a lot of people don't or can't share with me, but I'd rather move to a good district than homeschool.

The stakes are high, and teaching is _hard_.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

It's important to distinguish between a core competency and something of extreme importance. Obviously education is extremely important but that doesn't mean a parent will inherently be any good at doing it, other than of course caring a lot, which may or may not help depending on how that energy is channeled.

This is a very good point! I would just like to add, though, that teaching does not have to be one of your "core competencies" to consider homeschooling. Many folks like in places with terrible public schools, but also cannot afford to send their children to private school. As a friend recently remarked to me: to be successful in homeschooling, you do not have to provide a perfect education. As long as it is better than the alternative, it makes sense to have the option on the table.

(Of course, deployment of energy and resources must also be considered. Homeschooling is a TON of effort and might not be worth it for only marginal gains...)

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

> In business, Your kids aren't a business, life isn't a business, we should stop trying to optimise everything as if it was a startup, you're already outsourcing 99.9% of your life anyways Home schooling properly isn't easy, you'll infuses your biases deep into your kids without even noticing it, unless you country's schools are dogshit I'd let them go there

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Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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We just had a baby boy and I'm not going to lie, stuff like this has me worried. We were already considering home schooling (we split time between multiple countries and that's not conducive to a normal school schedule) but this is also a good argument for it.

I'd hate for biases in institutional schooling to lead him to hate school and potentially lead to poor life outcomes.

And now that I think about it, there was a massive spread between the grades I was given by teachers and my standardized test results (talking like 30 point difference).

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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I worked as a teacher for a little while. Discount my anecdote if you like, but it always seemed to me that girls are more likely to be grade grubbers than boys. (For those unfamiliar with the idiom, it means someone who pleads to the teacher to be given a higher grade. I don't know if there's a word in Italian.)

Some people are definitely more willing than others to maximize grades for the sake of grades as opposed to learning for the sake of learning.
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