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Re: iPad Pro M2

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As a commment on the /r/iPad subreddit said, Apple accidentally made the most future-proof devices with the 2018 iPad Pros. There is not a single app that makes full use of the increased CPU power of these new iPads. I own a 2018 11" iPP, and it has been a game-changer in the way I have studied. After buying it, I haven't printed a single sheet of paper for note-taking. It's also a much better Netflix device than my…

I was just thinking this myself. I have the 12.9" 2018 iPad Pro and was considering pulling the trigger on this new iPad Pro announced today. But I really have no reason to, my current one runs perfectly and I've even got the floating keyboard case which is backwards compatible with it. It's replaced my laptop entirely, instead I just ssh into my Mac at home and use vim if I feel like writing some code on the road or from bed.

Honestly have no complaints with this 2018 model, it's one of my favorite pieces of hardware I've ever owned and in fact is what introduced me to the Apple ecosystem (where I'm now fully submersed) in the first place.

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Has there been any recent discussions as to why Apple still hasn't introduced cellular connectivity on their laptops? Is it yet another attempt to get people to convert over to the walled garden of iOS? With every ipadOS iteration, they push it to be closer and closer to a desktop experience (windows, monitor support, keyboard trackpad cover, etc).

Modern WWAN might be a bit of a nightmare. I'm not super familiar with recent efforts in the space, but if Apple wanted to knock this out of the park, they'd need two things:

- Unlimited data plans, preferably at a non-insane price (sub $50-month would be nice)

- Both 4G LTE and 5G connectivity. Not just one or the other.

Both of these seem technically possible, but I'd assume they'd be incredibly difficult to pull-off from a business negotiation perspective.

Re: iPad Pro M2

#123

As far as I know, this is the first Apple hardware to support Wifi 6E, which is something I've been waiting on for what feels like forever. I'm hoping the rumored new laptops will also support 6E. For those that don't know, Wifi-6E uses the 6Ghz band, and I anticipate it will be very helpful in crowded residential environments where lots of Wifi APs are all landing on the same few 2.4 and 5Ghz channels.

I can't understand the emphasis on more bandwidth. The pain with wifi is overwhelmingly dominated by the slowness establishing a connection (why does it take more than a second?!), with connection reliability and latency (for video calls) also being important. "Wifi 7: 10 Terrabyte/sec transfer speeds" *yawn* "Wifi 7: Connects in 500 ms, latency 20 ms, tri-band fallover for 5-nines reliability" *Opens checkbook*

I've never once noticed slowness in connecting as bothering me at all. Are you connecting to new Wi-Fi networks hundreds of times a day or something? My iPad just... stays connected to the networks it knows.

And I believe that higher bandwidth is the solution to better reliability and latency when you've got lots of devices sharing the same router, or other interference. Isn't that how digital radio works?

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Pretty surprised they left the front camera on the side of the device. I can't figure out why they would think that makes sense after using it even once. It's so awkward trying to do a meeting and I have this weird camera angle coming from the corner of my face. The alternative is portrait orientation, which puts the camera really far from the center of the screen - feels like it's coming from above or below my face…

The camera on the new non-Pro iPad has moved from the side to the top though. Not sure why the inconsistency between models.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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It feels so close, doesn’t it? My biggest gripe is that iOS doesn’t have proper support for external displays.

iOS 16 fixes that.

Proper external display support was pulled from the initial release of iPadOS 16 because it was super buggy.

From the press release: > Full external display support for Stage Manager on M1 and M2 iPad models will be available in a software update later this year.

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Anyone have iPad Pro screen protector recommendations? Looking to get one of these and worried about screens getting "softer glass" and would rather have a sacrificial layer on top.

I wanted the "paper feel", which gives the screen a bit of roughness so it feels like writing on paper rather than glass. I went with this brand on Amazon and have been very happy with it:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N362JCW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...

I bought it 18 months ago and still haven't needed to replace it. I can clean it as easily as the bare screen.

These types of layers add a very tiny amount of color distortion, so I guess not recommended if you do professional graphics work on the thing.

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They keep on pushing on the power of the iPads. Out of curiosity, does anyone really use their iPads for something they’d consider really compute intensive? I find that the best use of a tablet is reading and watching videos. Any time I want to do anything complex or computationally intensive I find a laptop to be much more efficient, both in terms of the OS flexibility and better input devices.

Civ VI is pretty CPU intensive.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels so close, doesn’t it? My biggest gripe is that iOS doesn’t have proper support for external displays.

iOS 16 fixes that.

Not in the initial release. They pulled external display support from Stage Manager in later betas to get it working on older models with the A12X and A12Z instead of only the M1 and newer.

External display support is supposed to come back in an update later this year. Presumably that part will still require an M1 or newer processor.

Re: iPad Pro M2

#129

As a commment on the /r/iPad subreddit said, Apple accidentally made the most future-proof devices with the 2018 iPad Pros. There is not a single app that makes full use of the increased CPU power of these new iPads. I own a 2018 11" iPP, and it has been a game-changer in the way I have studied. After buying it, I haven't printed a single sheet of paper for note-taking. It's also a much better Netflix device than my…

I assume multicore video encoding makes full use of the CPU?

It seems kind of crazy to say there's nothing that makes full use of the CPU.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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post #33

Pretty surprised they left the front camera on the side of the device. I can't figure out why they would think that makes sense after using it even once. It's so awkward trying to do a meeting and I have this weird camera angle coming from the corner of my face. The alternative is portrait orientation, which puts the camera really far from the center of the screen - feels like it's coming from above or below my face…

This was the first thing I looked for. iPad is unusable for video calls.

Are you saying unusable because attachment to keyboard skews image centering/symmetry?

I use my iPad for video calls (Zoom) all the freaking time and it's fine, but perhaps that's because i have it in the tall orientation so the camera aligns.

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