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Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by samcat116 » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:30 PM UTC

dont__panic wrote: post #15

They finally killed the headphone jack in the plain-jane iPad, what a shame. I'm not exactly a tablet person -- my ereader suits me just fine for reading, which is all I'd want to do on a tablet, anyway -- but why do people put up with this? I understand that phones are small, and thus "hard" to fit the jack into... but why remove it from tablets?

At this point all my headphones are bluetooth anyways. One less port water and stuff can get into (although I agree they probably should have kept it here).

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by brk » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:30 PM UTC

dont__panic wrote: post #15

They finally killed the headphone jack in the plain-jane iPad, what a shame. I'm not exactly a tablet person -- my ereader suits me just fine for reading, which is all I'd want to do on a tablet, anyway -- but why do people put up with this? I understand that phones are small, and thus "hard" to fit the jack into... but why remove it from tablets?

At this point I’m over wired headphones. I carry a couple of pairs in my backpack for use on airplane seat back entertainment systems, but otherwise I prefer Bluetooth earbuds.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by artimaeis » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:30 PM UTC

jameshart wrote: post #12

What on earth is a ‘liquid retina’ display?

The "liquid" in liquid retina refers to the corners of the display being rounded to match the bezels. Retina is a now longstanding Apple term for high enough resolution to not see pixels at normal viewing distances. Hope that clarifies things, they should keep a glossary page up for things like this, hah.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by rootusrootus » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:32 PM UTC

ihuman wrote: post #38

This iPad has the flat sides from the Air and Pro, but it's not compatible with the 2nd gen iPad pencil. Instead, they're releasing a USB-C adapter so you can charge it directly from the iPad (1st gen plugged directly into the iPad's lightning port).

The Pencil is one of the more irritating product choices Apple has made. Plugging the first gen directly into a Lightning port end-first was a stupid idea from the get go. Version 2 got that right. But why did they need to make them incompatible otherwise? Other than to make a few extra bucks, of course. Forcing people to upgrade for no particular reason, and on top of that continuing to sell both versions for different devices. It's ridiculous.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by the_lucifer » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:32 PM UTC

brundolf wrote: post #23

The branding has gotten so confusing As far as I can tell this is the exact same design the iPad Air has had for a couple years now, but "iPad" (no descriptor) is a separate product, which until now still used the old-school form factor with the physical home button, etc. So this design isn't new at all for "iPad the line of devices", but it is new for "iPad the budget-tier iPad" ...but even with that information- is…

> is this model still worse than the Air somehow even though its design has been updated?

Yes, in a myriad of ways! This iPad doesn’t have a laminated touchscreen, and it still uses the Gen. 1 Apple Pencil weirdly so no magnets and you need a type c to lightning adapter to charge it up.

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by reneherse » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:33 PM UTC

andrewstuart wrote: post #34

I really like iPads but I haven’t used mine for years now. It’s sitting in a box somewhere. There doesn’t seem to be a need for it, for me.

Mine sat around too, until I began using it as an extended display on a stand. The recent Mac OS auxiliary display features are pretty good (brilliant in some ways, maddening in others).

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by TIPSIO » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:33 PM UTC

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #7

> The stunning 10.9-inch Liquid Retina display extends to the edges No it doesn't. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/images/product/ipad/standard/...

Ha, great catch. Also the title:

> unveils completely redesigned iPad

More: "unveils just slightly upgraded with nearly the same design"

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by rexf » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:33 PM UTC

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #7

> The stunning 10.9-inch Liquid Retina display extends to the edges No it doesn't. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/images/product/ipad/standard/...

Yeah, Apple has normalized misleading marketing speak.

Here's one from 2017 about the iPhone

> iPhone X: Apple's new 'edge-to-edge' screen includes strange notch at the top

> The screen doesn't actually go edge-to-edge, despite descriptions that refer to it that way. Or rather, it goes to three of the edges – leaving a little cut-out at the top, where the screen can't quite reach to the top of the display.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/iphone-x-apple-screen-dis...

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by rootusrootus » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:33 PM UTC

cromka wrote: post #30

crims0n wrote: post #11

Looks like price increased to $449 USD? Still a good value, but a noticeable increase.

Came here to notice that. This price hike will somehow put cheap Android tablets on the map, again. Previously there was hardly a justification to get any of them if iPad was $299 — and frequently could be had for even less than that.

They continue to sell the old cheaper one. Is it still better than a current model Android tablet?

Re: Apple unveils redesigned iPad

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Post by D13Fd » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:34 PM UTC

dont__panic wrote: post #15

They finally killed the headphone jack in the plain-jane iPad, what a shame. I'm not exactly a tablet person -- my ereader suits me just fine for reading, which is all I'd want to do on a tablet, anyway -- but why do people put up with this? I understand that phones are small, and thus "hard" to fit the jack into... but why remove it from tablets?

Yeah! And why can't don't they have ports for SD cards, USB sticks, and floppy disks!

At some point, things change. We're at that point with wired headphones. You can already share Bluetooth headphones across a Mac/iPhone/Tablet with extreme ease. And if you really want, you can adapt regular wired headphones to bluetooth.

And on iPads specifically, it's not like people are carrying them around in their pocket to listen to music.