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Stability AI Raises $101M at $1B valuation

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Re: Stability AI Raises $101M at $1B valuation

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I've spent the last half hour trying to figure out what this company is, and I still have no idea. My first stop was their website and I could not find a single sentence providing concrete details regarding their value proposition. It's just a bunch of vacuous statements which paint themselves as some sort of iconoclastic visionaries. Please do check it out for yourself and tell me it's not just a bunch of nonsense. For further evidence that this company hates concrete ideas and coherent sentences, head over to the founder's twitter and read his bio.

Anyways, if you scroll past the hand waving on their site, the first thing they tout is their developer communities. What exactly is a developer community? Do these communities belong to Stability? Does Stability own the research/models produced by these communities? I don't understand the value of this section at all. It seems to be just a list of ill-defined and loosely connected organizations with no clear relation to Stability.

Lastly, I am well aware of what stable diffusion is, but I still am not sure what the relationship is between Stability AI and the researchers that developed the stable diffusion model. As far as I can tell, Stability AI simply provided the compute for model training. None of the researchers list any affiliation with Stability in their publications (or elsewhere that I looked). And if this is the case, is there any reason to expect Stability to stay on the forefront of AI research? Or are they just going to open source models in the wake of actual research done by other organizations? How is lending compute to other researchers a viable business model, let alone one worth a 1B valuation? Is their stable diffusion API/Studio that much better than all the others?

Are these investors reputable? My first impression would be that they are drastically overestimating the competitive edge that Stability has.

Re: Stability AI Raises $101M at $1B valuation

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post #13

I've spent the last half hour trying to figure out what this company is, and I still have no idea. My first stop was their website and I could not find a single sentence providing concrete details regarding their value proposition. It's just a bunch of vacuous statements which paint themselves as some sort of iconoclastic visionaries. Please do check it out for yourself and tell me it's not just a bunch of nonsense.…

> I've spent the last half hour trying to figure out what this company is, and I still have no idea. My first stop was their website and I could not find a single sentence providing concrete details regarding their value proposition.

As much as it sucks, they don't owe the general public an explanation of their business plan. They apparently have access to investors and can explain it to them directly.

> but I still am not sure what the relationship is between Stability AI and the researchers that developed the stable diffusion model.

Another post trending on HN today about data laundering says that Stable AI funds the university research behind Stable Diffusion. The data laundering comes from the university using otherwise copyrighted data for "research purposes" and Stable AI can in turn use the trained model commercially, sidestepping the fact that the underlying data is not available for commercial purposes.

Another way to read that situation is simply that it is easier to outsource your research than build your own team.

Re: Stability AI Raises $101M at $1B valuation

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Stable Diffusion is simply fantastic, we live in great times to have such a thing as open-source to play with. And however justified the skepticism expressed in other HN comments might be, I truly hope they figure out a business model that’s compatible with continuing to make these releases. Otherwise, it’s forever going to be DeepMind’s “we actually have much better models, no you can’t see them, they go to a different school”, or alternatively, OpenAI’s insane prices and restrictions. For this field to become a game changer, the public needs access.

Re: Stability AI Raises $101M at $1B valuation

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How does this change their organizational model now they have VC money? > “Nobody has any voting rights except our employees — no billionaires, big funds, governments or anyone else with control of the company or the communities we support. We’re completely independent,” Mostaque told TechCrunch in a previous interview. “We plan to use our compute to accelerate open source, foundational AI.”

> We’re completely independent

After taking $100 million of other people's money, were they born yesterday?

Re: Stability AI Raises $101M at $1B valuation

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post #13

I've spent the last half hour trying to figure out what this company is, and I still have no idea. My first stop was their website and I could not find a single sentence providing concrete details regarding their value proposition. It's just a bunch of vacuous statements which paint themselves as some sort of iconoclastic visionaries. Please do check it out for yourself and tell me it's not just a bunch of nonsense.…

They wrap up studies into API calls or applications, which being sold to developers or end users.

These second-tier AI company don't need the be the best. "Good enough" with competitive pricing will do.

Re: Stability AI Raises $101M at $1B valuation

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This is quite stunning. OpenAI valuations are quoted as $3B. Stability AI just popped up6 months ago and is able to raise rounds in very tough economy at $1B valuation. The real differentiator between two is that Stability AI has took upon itself to o democratize AI ignoring all social wokness and thereby multiplying their efforts many manifold through community labor. OpenAI meanwhile is still deeply caught up in all kind of social/ethical/philosophical delima as well as Apple-isc secrecy as devotional offerings to Steve Jobs.

With this level of funding and community following, Stability AI is en route to dethrone OpenAI in almost no time.

Re: Stability AI Raises $101M at $1B valuation

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post #17

How does this change their organizational model now they have VC money? > “Nobody has any voting rights except our employees — no billionaires, big funds, governments or anyone else with control of the company or the communities we support. We’re completely independent,” Mostaque told TechCrunch in a previous interview. “We plan to use our compute to accelerate open source, foundational AI.”

> We’re completely independent After taking $100 million of other people's money, were they born yesterday?

New way of founding allows founders to retain 100% control. Facebook and Google are examples in their early years.
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