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Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

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Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

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After years of using IntelliJ I finally moved to VSCode. IntelliJ simply could do C/C++ but they chose to push people towards a new IDE... C Lion. That was a huge blow for me, a polyglot. Then I had a couple of bug opened with them... it took years for them to fix it. Except they marked it as fixed and it was indeed not fixed... Years later! I kept paying until that point, I just couldn't do it anymore. The company i…

Huh? If you buy the full IntelliJ you get all the modules. It’s no different than running CLion.

Not with CLion.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

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After years of using IntelliJ I finally moved to VSCode. IntelliJ simply could do C/C++ but they chose to push people towards a new IDE... C Lion. That was a huge blow for me, a polyglot. Then I had a couple of bug opened with them... it took years for them to fix it. Except they marked it as fixed and it was indeed not fixed... Years later! I kept paying until that point, I just couldn't do it anymore. The company i…

Being native has nothing to do with performance. XCode is native, and it is easily one of the slowest, dog shit IDEs you can think of.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

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> Removal of color from icons. Software is getting very depressing as designers decide that everything needs to be shades of grey. It's really sad.

IMO it's a usability issue. Instead of scanning the UI for a color+shape, there's only a shape. It's less distinguishable from the other icons, so I'll be slower to find it on the screen.

(Similarly, this also bothers me with the PS5 controller. The triangle, circle, square and X buttons no longer have different colors. This might not be an issue if you're already familiar with the button layout, but I bet it makes it more difficult to learn for somebody that is new to the controller.)

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Forget what VSCode is doing. Except for remote development extension. Do that. It's the killer feature of VSCode.

They do that, I’m playing with it now. Have a look at Jetbrains Gateway: https://www.jetbrains.com/remote-development/gateway/

How is it working for you? I tried the beta version last year and I was not impressed. Is it worth trying again?

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

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I actually _really_ like these changes, but then again I was previously a VS Code user. I think JetBrains is specifically courting users who, like me, don't deal well with user interfaces that utilize large numbers of text labels. I think they're catching up to "modern design", and trying to skate to where the puck is so to speak. However, I do want to point out that I don't think the author has actually used the new…

I haven't really used VSCode, so I can't really compare, but as a long time user of JetBrains IDEs I too really enjoy the new interface.

I mostly use keyboard shortcuts and when I don't know the combination, I rely on the Search Anywhere (double shift) and Run Anything (double ctrl) functionalities.

I find the new UI less distracting and the new VCS menu is a nice addition.

I also wonder how much technical debt has accumulated in the previous UI that is being addressed by a refresh.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

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Maybe I don't understand the praise but the JetBrains UI is one of the most clunky UIs I've ever used for coding. I'm honestly glad to see something more VSCode-like in Fleet.

I agree. The only reason I find VS Code somewhat interesting is that the UI is a lot smoother. But if this is going to be a new look on top of the same old molasses that is Swing, then I don’t see the point.

It is going to be Swing.
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