How Fly.io and Tailscale Saved Notado

Post by atonse » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 12:51 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #24

atonse wrote: post #22

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We're a corporate user but to me it was "wireguard + SSO" and I was sold. The Okta groups sync is a beautiful cherry on top.

I agree: for me at first the mind-blowing thing was seamless IdP integration. (Now I'd have ACLs neck-and-neck with the SSO stuff). But like, the extensible private network thing, that's what corporations use VPNs for. :)

Post by desireco42 » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 1:41 AM UTC

bsnnkv wrote: post #47

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #34

3000 users? You can save the data on disk and not worry about it. Get a vultr 5 dollar micro instance. I don't know why all these engineer driven businesses focus on the wrong things. You don't need fly.io. Of course they will tell you you need them, I don't blame them. But fly.io or kubernetes should always be done by a migration team which you can hire once you have insane profits. Yes profits, the other tiny detai…

> You can save the data on disk and not worry about it. I one day aspire to have the cajones of ilrwbwrkhv. For the reference of other potential solo devs, if done right, Fly.io will still be cheaper than the Vultr 5 dollar micro instance (or equivalent) with an incomparably better DX.

Post by dalyons » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 2:28 AM UTC

riwsky wrote: post #66

radicaldreamer wrote: post #17

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A lot of super sophisticated engineering goes into solving problems which were created by the engineers themselves and obviously didn't need to be. I remember hearing that Oscar (a health insurance startup whose main differentiation was having a decent app) ran their own mesos cluster for some reason creating tons of cost and complexity with little to no reason (also operated tons of microservices with startup headco…

Context (I work at Oscar): Oscar (no longer a startup; IPO'd last year) ran their own mesos cluster for the same reasons anyone uses k8s today: to help teams deliver in parallel. "Startup headcount" can mean different things to different people, but the company employs hundreds of software engineers, and has been around for over a decade. Kubernetes was not an option when they hit those scaling constraints—but now th…

Post by knicholes » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 2:50 AM UTC

atonse wrote: post #12

crawshaw wrote: post #6

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thanks! we have a lot of work to do explaining tailscale. we’re working on it.

I am doing a company talk (we do them weekly) about network security and at least the way I was planning to explain tailscale to our staff was via a picture I still need to somehow build, but it goes something like this: You have a crowd of people (like one of those massive crowds you see in Tokyo etc). And you are both at either sides of the crowd, and you each have a can with a string connecting you to each other –…

Post by elteto » Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 3:10 AM UTC

bsnnkv wrote: post #47

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #34

3000 users? You can save the data on disk and not worry about it. Get a vultr 5 dollar micro instance. I don't know why all these engineer driven businesses focus on the wrong things. You don't need fly.io. Of course they will tell you you need them, I don't blame them. But fly.io or kubernetes should always be done by a migration team which you can hire once you have insane profits. Yes profits, the other tiny detai…

> You can save the data on disk and not worry about it. I one day aspire to have the cajones of ilrwbwrkhv. For the reference of other potential solo devs, if done right, Fly.io will still be cheaper than the Vultr 5 dollar micro instance (or equivalent) with an incomparably better DX.