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The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by MarkMarine »

nailer wrote: post #220
MarkMarine wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re just spitting out agitprop with no underlying point except “left bad.” It’s not well thought out or discussed with room to agree or disagree, or even based in fact, you’re basically just shouting into the void about something you don’t like. That brings down the level of discourse here, and belongs on Facebook where you can share memes with a bunch of smooth brained people that agree with you.

> it’s not even based on fact Pardon? What specifically of the very specific, widely accepted points of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33215270 was not based in fact? If you think my points are issues with the mainstream left rather than the far left I don’t think you’ve been reading the posts you keep writing replies to.

I’m not going to put effort into describing where and why you’re wrong, I don’t think talking to you is worth the effort. You’ll never change your beliefs.

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by Maximus9000 »

Google still has indexed her site. Is that odd? If I search for Jihad rehab, it's the top hit on bing and duckduckgo... but its nowhere to be found on google.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Jihad+rehab

https://www.bing.com/search?q=jihad+rehab

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jihad+rehab

https://jihadrehab.com/robots.txt

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Post by throwawayallday »

pas wrote: post #212
throwawayallday wrote: post #175

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Luckily you posted this anonymously because if your name was ever tied to a comment like this, you'd face the wrath of the woke mob. Your comment is extremely benign as far as "right-wing" comments go, but if you would've posted this on your company Slack, you'd be crucified. Thank you for posting this. Many of us agree with you.

why is that's a right-wing comment? :o

Anything that stands in defiance of leftism, especially leftist identity politics is "right-wing" now. That's how far the Overton Window has shifted.

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by pas »

throwawayallday wrote: post #223
pas wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why is that's a right-wing comment? :o

Anything that stands in defiance of leftism, especially leftist identity politics is "right-wing" now. That's how far the Overton Window has shifted.

that's certainly a claim, but I think it's how far political polarization hysteria moved the range of public discourse.

there's a very big center. (dare I say it's the plurality?)

despite the news most folks are solidly boring when it comes to politics, and the loud minorities are ... loud minorities.

redefining (the already barely useful) left/right because of them is an unforced error IMHO

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Post by candiodari »

anonair wrote: post #183
candiodari wrote: post #163

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And your source for Islam is Ayatollah? He is not even a sunni. The point is he directly/indirectly benefits from misrepresenting the Prophet

See the list of sources on the wikipedia page. Plenty of Sunni sources. And it's not like the prophet did this once ...

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by viridian »

pas wrote: post #224
throwawayallday wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything that stands in defiance of leftism, especially leftist identity politics is "right-wing" now. That's how far the Overton Window has shifted.

that's certainly a claim, but I think it's how far political polarization hysteria moved the range of public discourse. there's a very big center. (dare I say it's the plurality?) despite the news most folks are solidly boring when it comes to politics, and the loud minorities are ... loud minorities. redefining (the already barely useful) left/right because of them is an unforced error IMHO

To throwawayallday's point though, I do think there's two large trends that tend to lead to this sort of labelling, one in America, and one in the context of the Anglosphere and much of Europe.

In America the Democrats, as the left-er of the two major parties, tend to bend heavily to the will of any adjacent loud minority and eagerly adopt their rhetoric, even if they don't adopt their policies. This gets amplified in both directions by social media, especially Twitter, where advocates press politicians for vocal sup[port, that when given increases the demand and visibility of these requests, ad infinitum.

In the Anglosphere and much of Europe, there is a common pattern of some subset of (usually young) people viewing all issues, even local ones, through an American lens. I have no idea how America established such an overwhelming level of political-cultural imperialism in the last decade or so, but at this point it seems ubiquitous. A discussion on America's policies causes everyone else to examine and start dialogue on their own policies, almost without fail. This leads to any American hot button issues becoming the issue of the week for dozens of countries, and it's all framed through American battle lines.

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Post by throwoutway »

lumost wrote: post #159
rayiner wrote: post #37

> It was the first time that Smaker realized that her film might be controversial. “She hadn’t seen the film,” Smaker recalls, “but seemed unhappy that I — as a non-Muslim — was making a film about Muslims.” After she saw it, Chehab went on to write on the TRT World website: “The only perspective needed is the Muslim one. . . . When I, a practicing Muslim woman, say that this film is problematic, my voice should be s…

I will refrain from commenting on the specifics of this situation. But I’m curious if the logical fallacy of appealing to group authority is a new rhetorical tactic or simply an old one that we’ve leaned into. Nixon’s appeal to the silent majority a generation ago sounds quite similar.

Perhaps the difference is that the old tactic did not tell one group to “shut up” as the newer tactics did. Did Nixon do that? I’m too young to remember

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by nailer »

MarkMarine wrote: post #221
nailer wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it’s not even based on fact Pardon? What specifically of the very specific, widely accepted points of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33215270 was not based in fact? If you think my points are issues with the mainstream left rather than the far left I don’t think you’ve been reading the posts you keep writing replies to.

I’m not going to put effort into describing where and why you’re wrong, I don’t think talking to you is worth the effort. You’ll never change your beliefs.

Fair enough. I’ll point out as that as the person complaining about the level of discourse you’re the only person in this conversation that has resorted to insults and refused to address reasonable questions.

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Post by Firmwarrior »

viridian wrote: post #226
pas wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's certainly a claim, but I think it's how far political polarization hysteria moved the range of public discourse. there's a very big center. (dare I say it's the plurality?) despite the news most folks are solidly boring when it comes to politics, and the loud minorities are ... loud minorities. redefining (the already barely useful) left/right because of them is an unforced error IMHO

To throwawayallday's point though, I do think there's two large trends that tend to lead to this sort of labelling, one in America, and one in the context of the Anglosphere and much of Europe. In America the Democrats, as the left-er of the two major parties, tend to bend heavily to the will of any adjacent loud minority and eagerly adopt their rhetoric, even if they don't adopt their policies. This gets amplified i…

Wow, man, that must be insanely frustrating

I've only had much experience with US culture in the USA, and living in Japan. I guess the language/cultural barrier between the US and Japan is still substantial enough that US politics don't really make their way into the Japanese zeitgeist, since I never heard anything about US politics from anyone I know living there other than Americans.

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by fomine3 »

viridian wrote: post #226
pas wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's certainly a claim, but I think it's how far political polarization hysteria moved the range of public discourse. there's a very big center. (dare I say it's the plurality?) despite the news most folks are solidly boring when it comes to politics, and the loud minorities are ... loud minorities. redefining (the already barely useful) left/right because of them is an unforced error IMHO

To throwawayallday's point though, I do think there's two large trends that tend to lead to this sort of labelling, one in America, and one in the context of the Anglosphere and much of Europe. In America the Democrats, as the left-er of the two major parties, tend to bend heavily to the will of any adjacent loud minority and eagerly adopt their rhetoric, even if they don't adopt their policies. This gets amplified i…

Yeah. I feel weird that BLM movement is treated as a global problem, like OSS project or GCP API page have static banner for that. I completely agree for BLM and racial crimination is a worldwide problem, but BLM (specifically blacks are killed by police) is a specific problem in the US.
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