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Kanye West is buying Parler

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Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

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Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

> This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. Devil's advocate: there's no way this isn't the case for Kanye, right? Why is this mental illness sparking up later in his life? Why was he able to achieve everything he's achieved 1996 -> 2012 (Roc-A-Fella -> The College Dropout -> My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy era) without these "mental illness" bouts?

Both bipolar and schizophrenia can manifest late. They're often latent and triggered by unusual stress.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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Musk and everyone else is right that we do need a platform with free speech. The only problem is that all those free speech advocates are actually NIMBY's when it comes to free speech. I have been following self proclaimed free speech absolutists(because I too, believe in free speech but don't believe it exists) and they are totally not the kind of people that say "I hate what you say but I will die defending your ri…

We don't need a free speech platform. People need a choice as to how the content they see is moderated. That's what forums used to do, until we collectively decided to just put all the forums on Facebook or Twitter rather than having separate forums for each interest. Everyone thinking "we need free speech on Twitter" has lost the plot, and, as you mentioned, the revealed preference of people who claim they want free…

You are onto something, but companies doing the moderating are doing what they can to ensure that:

a) new entrants can't exist ( Parler, Truth.. whatever ) b) the rules are so generic that they ensure given platform can ban whatever

And this is why people clamor for simple free speech slogan.

If this is how we understand it, then we do need free speech.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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> In a world where conservative opinions are considered to be controversial In my opinion controversy and political incorrectness are Okay. I don't think people should be too concerned about hurting others' feelings when discussing objective phenomena or expressing their own opinion (as long as they acknowledge their subjectivity) . Nevertheless obvious (although not to everyone) absurd, blatant lies and manipulation…

> Nevertheless obvious (although not to everyone) absurd, blatant lies and manipulations shouldn't be covered by the free speech umbrella. "Capitalism is the problem", "modern employment is wage slavery". These are absurd, blatant lies meant to manipulate. Would you have statements like that removed?

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Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

People keep saying he's sick or he is wrong, yet his popularity keeps growing. Same for net worth. His tweets are getting 3-5x the engagement compared to a year ago. Maybe it's all part of the act.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

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You don't need to know him personally. He's talked publicly about being bipolar and how it makes him imagine scenarios exactly like those he has described recently. His recent behaviour has all the hallmarks of a bipolar episode. I think there's a good discussion to be had about how we should talk about situations like this but dismissing it out of hand definitely isn't helpful.

> I don't think you can say anything so factual about his life, let alone that he's being scammed.

One thing I think it's possible to say definitively is that he was played by Tucker Carlson's team. The comments they didn't air, like those about Jewish people, are headline making. Any serious journalistic outfit would have aired them. The fact that they cut around them shows that they wanted to paint Kanye in a particular way for their own purposes.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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We don't have all the info, but let's not kid ourselves that mental illness can't be visible from a distance.

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Obviously no one is arguing that we should attack mentally ill people. We can acknowledge that mental illness impairs decision making ability without attacking people. It doesn't even mean that people can't agree with some of Kanye's conclusions, but if you are such a person, consider finding a champion for your ideas who can do a better job of articulating those ideas.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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When only the rejects use the sites of course it's going to be full of bad content. That doesn't mean there isn't value in free speech being better valued on mainstream platforms.

When given the choice between platforms, why do you think the majority continues to congregate on the more restrictive ones?

I think the answer here is complicated, but a good portion of it is closely related to 'my friends are here.'

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

Call me cynical, but I think the likes of Kanye, the Kardashians, Trump, even Elon, etc. are much more calculated than they are deranged. They know how to work the media and manipulate the public better than anyone else. We're living in a world now where journalists are paid by click counts more than quality of content. In the same vein, Kanye and the likes know that the more absurdist and unconventional their actions, the more publicity they get.
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