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Re: OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop

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Post by csdvrx »

chasil wrote: post #17
csdvrx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Who still partitions like that??? Anyone using ZFS should! Since ZFS partitions are all taking from the available space of the pool, you can have as many partitions as you need, which is very practical for snapshots and diffs, or if you want to use the same pool for different hosts (=> use a different etc along with a few others like var/lib ) Look at the set of partitions I recommend on https://github.com/csdvrx/z…

I did an Ubuntu ZFS install for the first time recently, and I can confirm that a similar list of datasets arrive automatically. It also taints the kernel, which is interesting.

> I did an Ubuntu ZFS install for the first time recently, and I can confirm that a similar list of datasets arrive automatically.

FYI this list was created to address Ubuntu's choices for ZFS datasets, which I think are suboptimal.

> It also taints the kernel, which is interesting.

Oracle could fix the ZFS situation at any time if they wanted to (and then get some positive feelings which they sorely need).

They don't. Personally, I don't care much. They may eventually change, like Microsoft did.

It's in their best interest: adapt or die.

Re: OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop

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Post by mustache_kimono »

Minimalist Desktop == not very much works/to use? Minimalist in the backwoods cabin, no running water sense.

This is not intended to be mean (hey, if it works for you!), but in many ways this is about vibes, and this does have a Linux of 25 years ago vibes.

Re: OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop

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Post by CoolCold »

doublepg23 wrote: post #10
knorker wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the article says it's the OpenBSD default. As for why: A power loss will likely only affect filesystems being written to. So less risk of ending up with an unbootable system if / and /usr are not being written to. Even moreso if they are mapped read-only. I don't know about now, but I've seen people only enable softdep mount option for FSs that need some extra speed, and not on / and /usr. (article does this for /…

I’ve posted it here before but the frustrating state of OpenBSDs filesystems is a big issue for me putting it into production.

My first one would be "can I hire any reasonable sysadmin for that at all?"

Among others - is it supported by any hosting vendor or I'll be forced to tinker with it myself without even cloud-init tooling?

Re: OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop

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Post by brynet »

mhd wrote: post #19
sylware wrote: post #4

Can openbsd compile with a minimal C89 (maybe a bit of c99) compiler, or does it require gcc or clang?

If this hasn't changed recently, the two official compilers for OpenBSD are clang and gcc 4.2, the latter for some more obscure architectures unsupported by clang. The specific version is used because gcc changed its license after that, and I think this was before the C99 support of gcc was basically finished (4.5?). So technically speaking, it would sound possible, if such a large code base doesn't trigger various c…

The last attempt I'm aware of was over a decade ago now, at the time there was some interest in building the system (kernel+userland) with pcc (Portable C Compiler), ultimately LLVM/clang won out in the end.

https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20091228231142

Re: OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop

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Post by CoolCold »

Not related to OpenBSD itself, more for "minimalistic" approach - screenshots with irssi were popular like 25 or 20 years ago. I see kinda nothing new here, just fly stuck in amber.

Has minimalistic meant to be "limited"? Then makes sense.

TUI based? Somewhat makes a bit of sense.

Minimalistic but yet full featured? I couldn't see that on provided sample.

Re: OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop

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Post by ogogmad »

INTPenis wrote: post #22

The word minimal often means minimalistic in appearance and resource use, what I want is minimal work. That's why I run default gnome.

Default KDE does more out of the box, and is very usable. Resource usage seems OK. I recommend it over Gnome.

The only thing I liked about Gnome was the appearance, which was something purely superficial.

(I don't use Linux anymore.)

Re: OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop

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Post by chungy »

CoolCold wrote: post #24
doublepg23 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve posted it here before but the frustrating state of OpenBSDs filesystems is a big issue for me putting it into production.

My first one would be "can I hire any reasonable sysadmin for that at all?" Among others - is it supported by any hosting vendor or I'll be forced to tinker with it myself without even cloud-init tooling?

Honestly, any competent Linux or FreeBSD admin should adapt to OpenBSD easily.
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