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Meta may use the Quest Pro's eye-tracking to serve ads because of course it will

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Re: Meta may use the Quest Pro's eye-tracking to serve ads because of course it will

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The same type of disclaimer was used for hand tracking, when you used it the first time. And, now there is much better hand tracking. Machine learning requires data. Regardless, these features can be left disabled. With Quest 2 existing, I assume most apps will have a graceful fallback.

That sounds great, but: [1] "...the “fundamental” problem, the company admits, is that Facebook has no idea where all of its user data goes, or what it’s doing with it, according to a leaked internal document obtained by Motherboard. “We’ve built systems with open borders. The result of these open systems and open culture is well described with an analogy: Imagine you hold a bottle of ink in your hand. This bottle of…

I agree. That’s why I’ll probably be leaving it disabled, just as I did with the hand tracking (besides some quick tests for fun).

It’s not being forced, and Fallback will probably be graceful.

Re: Meta may use the Quest Pro's eye-tracking to serve ads because of course it will

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same type of disclaimer was used for hand tracking, when you used it the first time. And, now there is much better hand tracking. Machine learning requires data. Regardless, these features can be left disabled. With Quest 2 existing, I assume most apps will have a graceful fallback.

> Machine learning requires data. If a company wants people to allow data collection on them in order to improve that company's products, out of their sense of goodwill toward the company, maybe they should avoid getting a reputation for abusing any and all data they collect to the detriment of their users to shove ads down their throat and sell or leak said data to unaccountable 3rd parties with even more nefarious…

Those with concerns can leave it disabled, as they could with hand tracking. This will spare you from the data collection for eye tracking.

Re: Meta may use the Quest Pro's eye-tracking to serve ads because of course it will

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> Machine learning requires data. If a company wants people to allow data collection on them in order to improve that company's products, out of their sense of goodwill toward the company, maybe they should avoid getting a reputation for abusing any and all data they collect to the detriment of their users to shove ads down their throat and sell or leak said data to unaccountable 3rd parties with even more nefarious…

Those with concerns can leave it disabled, as they could with hand tracking. This will spare you from the data collection for eye tracking.

Or, better, not use these devices in the first place.

Re: Meta may use the Quest Pro's eye-tracking to serve ads because of course it will

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There are so many "could"s in this article and not a lot of evidence of any kind that this will be done. Meta is not going to serve ads based on eye tracking data. It would be stupid for them to this on their halo product or frankly, on any of their vr products. They need these products to succeed and they are not so naive as to jeopardize their nacent platform on some silly ad scheme at this stage. I understand the hate for meta on hacker news, but it's really a shame for it to be based on no evidence at all.

Re: Meta may use the Quest Pro's eye-tracking to serve ads because of course it will

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Normally I have some sympathy for Facebook (aka "Meta") users being abused by Facebook, because I understand some people feel locked into Facebook by their friends and family. But for VR, a glorified toy? You may as well complain that your pet cobra bit you. Why didn't you see this coming? Why did you choose to buy this thing even though the risks were obvious to everybody with at least half a brain? The headline say…

There's VR other than facebooks out there. No need to let the whole tech whither because of one bad actor.

Re: Meta may use the Quest Pro's eye-tracking to serve ads because of course it will

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Those with concerns can leave it disabled, as they could with hand tracking. This will spare you from the data collection for eye tracking.

Or, better, not use these devices in the first place.

Absolutely! But I think a factual understanding, to make that decision, is important.
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