I use a thinkpad-style keyboard and my mouse is on the homerow. It feels like that is much more efficient than this, as you get the precision of the mouse without having to move your hand. I don't understand why more people don't adopt it. Is it because it's so different from a normal mouse ?
Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
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Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#62I use a thinkpad-style keyboard and my mouse is on the homerow. It feels like that is much more efficient than this, as you get the precision of the mouse without having to move your hand. I don't understand why more people don't adopt it. Is it because it's so different from a normal mouse ?
Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some people need tools like this, as an assistive technology - think RSI, Parkinsons and other issues that affect dexterity or elbow movement. Not so weird.
Thank you for explaining - as a consequence of illness and disability, I can understand the need. But why someone would intentionally make things more difficult for themselves as a preference, I don't get. It would be like walking around in crutches when you have two perfectly healthy legs.
Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some people need tools like this, as an assistive technology - think RSI, Parkinsons and other issues that affect dexterity or elbow movement. Not so weird.
Thank you for explaining - as a consequence of illness and disability, I can understand the need. But why someone would intentionally make things more difficult for themselves as a preference, I don't get. It would be like walking around in crutches when you have two perfectly healthy legs.
There are times when a mouse is good, there are times when I don't want to take my hands off the keyboard and mouse for something.
Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#65I use a thinkpad-style keyboard and my mouse is on the homerow. It feels like that is much more efficient than this, as you get the precision of the mouse without having to move your hand. I don't understand why more people don't adopt it. Is it because it's so different from a normal mouse ?
From what I remember isn't that a tiny thumbstick? That's much, much slower then something like this.
Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#66I've built an app that has the same goals (not operate a mouse) but approach it completely different. Rather than try to simulate the moving the mouse itself, Shortcat [ https://shortcat.app/ ] indexes the user interface (buttons, text fields, links, menus, etc) and enables fast fuzzy search of the interface. Type a word, abbreviations, or hints and hit Enter to click or action the element. Works almost everywhere on…
I think this paradigm along with more app developers putting all the important functions in menus is a strong contender for Maximum Intuitive Productivity
Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
From what I remember isn't that a tiny thumbstick? That's much, much slower then something like this.
No it's not. It's pressure sensitive and about as fast or faster than a trackpad with movement. I've never had a problem with speed, even across multiple, large, monitors.
Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#68Looking at the limitations, I hate how fragmented Linux is becoming for apps like this. Completely separate implementations for: - X - Wayland + Gnome Shell - Wayland + wlroots-based compositor - Wayland + sway or any other non-wlroots based compositor Is Wayland really that much better that this is worth it? Why can't Wayland be aware of the compositor like X?
Where were you seeing that. I only glanced through a handful of files, but it appears to be one implementation for me: https://github.com/rvaiya/warpd/tree/master/src/platform/way... If there is a distinction, and there might be, "completely separate" is exaggerating. Edit: I see that only wlroot based implementations are supported so far, and of those there are some things broken in wayfire. Perhaps this is what you…
Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#69Looking at the limitations, I hate how fragmented Linux is becoming for apps like this. Completely separate implementations for: - X - Wayland + Gnome Shell - Wayland + wlroots-based compositor - Wayland + sway or any other non-wlroots based compositor Is Wayland really that much better that this is worth it? Why can't Wayland be aware of the compositor like X?
Wait is there a separate implementation for sway and other wlroots? Because sway is wlroots based, that's where wlroots originates?
Re: Warpd: A modal keyboard-driven virtual pointer
#70I've built an app that has the same goals (not operate a mouse) but approach it completely different. Rather than try to simulate the moving the mouse itself, Shortcat [ https://shortcat.app/ ] indexes the user interface (buttons, text fields, links, menus, etc) and enables fast fuzzy search of the interface. Type a word, abbreviations, or hints and hit Enter to click or action the element. Works almost everywhere on…