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Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by tpmx »

swayvil wrote: post #20

This is an angle of the uneven distribution of wealth that you seldom hear about. As long as there are rich and poor people, a rich person can hire a poor person to do basically anything. Overriding legality, decency, safety. Because the poor person just needs the money that bad. So you get people renting out their backyard as a toxic waste dump. Or murdering people. Or breathing smog. Or selling children. Crazy horr…

> ... Or murdering people. ...

Oh come on. Is HN suddenly r/antiwork?

I'm pretty sure conspiracy to commit murder is illegal in whatever your locale is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by ghaff »

harles wrote: post #33
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #28

One thing that I should point out, is that he is not going after the WSJ, for any impropriety in his firing. They are really the ones that damaged his career. So I suspect that there is more to this story than is apparent.

From what I can tell, there’s not necessarily more. It’s a clear conflict of interest to do business with a source for a story. Doesn’t sound illegal, but certainly gives the appearance of bias.

Publications like the Wall Street Journal have stricter ethical rules than apply in a lot of other situations. Accepting a "yacht ride" would be OK under some circumstances but possibly not in this case--and at least suggesting an openness to business deals could well cross the line as well.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by seibelj »

another_story wrote: post #43
seibelj wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An underappreciated negative aspect of equality is total lack of enthusiasm and incentive. As inequality is a guarantee - no two people are alike in any aspect and neither are their abilities as an employee - mandating (either by gun or union contract) lockstep equality in payments and job security, the highest performers are demoralized and put in the bare minimum or quit (if they can). The result is the ever-increa…

This is mostly a strawman, since I don't see almost anyone arguing for complete equality of pay, status or position, merely that a handful of people shouldn't be able to accumulate the wealth of small nations on the back of others. In countries in Europe, and places in Asia, there are plenty of examples where there is less inequality and the students perform better.

Europe has many poor countries and even developed ones (UK) are having quality of life decreases due mostly to a lack of private sector success - the government eventually runs out of money without private business to fill its coffers.

Happy to be in the US especially with the global economic recession incoming

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by pempem »

puchatek wrote: post #15
pempem wrote: post #3

I'm not sure I understand the importance of these hackers being Indian as opposed as from any other region?

Maybe you missed this sentence while reading the article? "Solomon’s suit is the latest in a series of legal actions that follows Reuters’ reporting about hired hackers operating out of India."

I did, thanks.

Since I missed that sentence it seemed odd compared to hackers out of Romania or anywhere else.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by pempem »

InCityDreams wrote: post #8
pempem wrote: post #3

I'm not sure I understand the importance of these hackers being Indian as opposed as from any other region?

'Cus they were from India?

Haha, yes ofc. It was a tremendously minor part of the article seemingly and yet made it to the headline

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

sandGorgon wrote: post #30
pempem wrote: post #3

I'm not sure I understand the importance of these hackers being Indian as opposed as from any other region?

US and India have very enforceable bilateral cybercrime treaties. And it is very well enforced on both sides. The article makes it seem that India as a whole is operating in some North Korea-ish way. A US citizen can well complain to CERT-IN ( https://www.cert-in.org.in/ ) for any reported cybercrime with proper documents and it will be treated as an enforceable crime. In fact, quite funny considering the US Chambers…

> US and India have very enforceable bilateral cybercrime treaties. And it is very well enforced on both sides

Is this documented? If true, I suspect the image of Indian criminals being beyond the reach of the law stems from the spam call problem.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by ok_dad »

seibelj wrote: post #49
ok_dad wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds to me like we should eliminate the idea that high performance and achievement should be rewarded with wealth or being raised above others. Perhaps it would be better if people learned from a young age that achievement is its own reward? Are we such animals that we need special treats in order to do the right thing? I think it’s a childish attitude that if you don’t get more cookies than someone else that you’l…

I work 70 hours a week and there is 0% chance I would do that without having significant upside in my firm. I get more money and I deserve it, this is a free country and I don’t want anyone’s potential capped (and certainly not my own!).

Plenty of people already have their potential capped by the current system, with no recourse.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by saagarjha »

tpmx wrote: post #51
swayvil wrote: post #20

This is an angle of the uneven distribution of wealth that you seldom hear about. As long as there are rich and poor people, a rich person can hire a poor person to do basically anything. Overriding legality, decency, safety. Because the poor person just needs the money that bad. So you get people renting out their backyard as a toxic waste dump. Or murdering people. Or breathing smog. Or selling children. Crazy horr…

> ... Or murdering people. ... Oh come on. Is HN suddenly r/antiwork? I'm pretty sure conspiracy to commit murder is illegal in whatever your locale is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)

So is selling children. Doesn’t mean you can’t buy these services.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by abirch »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #28

One thing that I should point out, is that he is not going after the WSJ, for any impropriety in his firing. They are really the ones that damaged his career. So I suspect that there is more to this story than is apparent.

With emails being so important to careers and reputations, why don't people use 1) encryption 2) Microsoft or Google to host their emails?

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by xyzzyz »

LatteLazy wrote: post #31
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #28

One thing that I should point out, is that he is not going after the WSJ, for any impropriety in his firing. They are really the ones that damaged his career. So I suspect that there is more to this story than is apparent.

I believe... In the USA you cannot sue your employer for firing you unless it's for membership of a protected class or whistleblowing. If your employer wants to fire you because it's Thursday or they're just having a bad day or they don't like something you wrote in an email, tough.

Every single person is a member of a protected class. Men are just as much a protected class as women are, and whites are just as much a protected class as blacks are. At least, this is what the law says, because I don’t think that all of these classes are actually equally protected by law in practice.
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