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Chaos Computer Club saves the German healthcare system 400M Euros

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Re: Chaos Computer Club saves the German healthcare system 400M Euros

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Deepl:

> Special routers are required in German doctors' offices to connect to the "telematics" health data network. After only five years of operation, there is no alternative to replacing the devices - at least according to the manufacturers. This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros. The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) shows that the expensive hardware exchange is anything but necessary, and donates a solution to the problem free of charge.

Re: Chaos Computer Club saves the German healthcare system 400M Euros

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Deepl: > Special routers are required in German doctors' offices to connect to the "telematics" health data network. After only five years of operation, there is no alternative to replacing the devices - at least according to the manufacturers. This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros. The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) shows that the ex…

>This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros.

I'm always amazed at the gross inefficiencies of the German bureaucratic machine (including most public and government institutions), despite the traditional world renowned stereotype of "German efficiency", even though at this point I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore.

The CCC is a national treasure.

Re: Chaos Computer Club saves the German healthcare system 400M Euros

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When it comes to anything with computers it’s difficult to imagine ways to end up more incompetent than literally all German public (or pseudo-public, like here) agencies. You’d certainly get something more competent by collecting random strangers off the street.

It’s virtually impossible to overstate how bad the situation in this area truly is in Germany.

Re: Chaos Computer Club saves the German healthcare system 400M Euros

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Deepl: > Special routers are required in German doctors' offices to connect to the "telematics" health data network. After only five years of operation, there is no alternative to replacing the devices - at least according to the manufacturers. This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros. The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) shows that the ex…

>This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros. I'm always amazed at the gross inefficiencies of the German bureaucratic machine (including most public and government institutions), despite the traditional world renowned stereotype of "German efficiency", even though at this point I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore. The CCC is a nat…

Isnt the stereotype 'deutsche Gruendlichkeit' which is not efficiancy but thoroughness, which just mean that a few thousand pages need to be filled out, signed and countersigned for the 400 mill order.

Re: Chaos Computer Club saves the German healthcare system 400M Euros

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For anyone who doesn't read German, here is a summary: The company in charge of the connectors for the health care system "Telematik" built devices with certificates that expire after 5 years. Instead of updating thousands of machines with new certificates, the company claims these need to be replaced for a total cost of 400M Euro. The CCC showed how the firmware can be changed to accept new certificates, making the hardware replacement unnecessary, and offers to assist hospitals and doctor's offices with the software patch. However, the company "gematik" who delivers these connection endpoints first has to sign the new certificates, which they so far haven't agreed to.

What's worse about this story is that the company apparently planned the hardware replacement in a way that it would have to be replaced again in 2027, and they still were awarded the contracts for this multi-million dollar project.

Re: Chaos Computer Club saves the German healthcare system 400M Euros

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>This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros. I'm always amazed at the gross inefficiencies of the German bureaucratic machine (including most public and government institutions), despite the traditional world renowned stereotype of "German efficiency", even though at this point I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore. The CCC is a nat…

Isnt the stereotype 'deutsche Gruendlichkeit' which is not efficiancy but thoroughness, which just mean that a few thousand pages need to be filled out, signed and countersigned for the 400 mill order.

Living in both Germany and Austria, I've learned that the excessive paper based bureaucracy is mostly there so that people in charge have their butts always covered. "It's not my fault, I did everything by the book, here look, I've got the paperwork to prove it".

Tip for anyone living or wanting to move there: keep digital copies of all important letters, bills, documents, contracts and paperwork you get. It's not unheard of for a company or government institution to make mistakes and you ending up on the hook with huge fines or bills to pay, so having copies of all possible paperwork from the beginning of time could save your ass one day.

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