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“More than 230 filmmakers signed a letter denouncing the documentary. A majority had not seen it.” Just a reminder that the far ends of the political spectrum loop back and connect.
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It predates Marilyn Mason by many years. Black Sabbath in the 70s and Ozzy Osbourne (solo) in the early 80s come to mind.
Totally fair. The whole playing records backwards trolling for audio that might sound like satanic verses, whatever that means, comes to mind.
On the other hand, these claims turned out to be excellent marketing for those records.
The Guardian pretty much contradicts the spin being offered here: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jul/29/jihad-rehab-for... Sounds like it isn't a "woke mob" coming after her, but the actual subjects of the film really feel like they're being taken advantage of, their perspectives are really distorted and they felt she was re-interrogating them. The idea that the film is being cancelled solely because the filmm…
It doesn't seem obvious to me that we should happily censor a film because the subjects of the film don't like it. Suppose we did a film about the Sackler family https://www.hulu.com/series/the-crime-of-the-century-63a06ef... and the Sackler family says they don't like it -- they feel they were misrepresented, and claim they didn't consent to participation, despite having signed consent documents. Is that legitimate…
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The nazis admitted they were inspired by socialism, nazism specifically had elements of class warfare. “goldfish brain” isn’t much of a response.
This is provably false. The nazi imprisoned and even exterminated socialists and communists as soon as they could.
This framing of protest as "cancellation" in the context of supporting free speech is something I find perculiar. Surely protest is speech? If that is the case then if you support free speech you must logically support both the right to the original speech and the right of others to protest that speech. When people say that people signed a letter denouncing the documentary without seeing it that's a little bit wide o…
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Moreover, the language of the claimed poet - I’m an Arab - is far different from the language of the time, far from being poetic, and the statement claimed that Prophet Muhammad said has a very different tone from his usual tone (He said “Who’d save me from Al ‘Asmaa bint Marwan?” and the Prophet himself mentioned that there is no savior other than Allah. The prophet approach would be something like يريحني (v. make me relaxed) from so and so. It’s a very horrible and easy to spot fabrication, the fabricator almost didn’t put any effort in it and used the language of his time instead.
You don’t need to mention a fabricated story to attack Islam’s take on free speech. Free speech is simply not a principle that was ever well-regarded in Islam. “Whomever believes in Allah and the last day should only say good or be quiet” and “Are people thrown into the depth of hellfire except by the sowing of their tongues” and “It is enough for one to be described as a liar is to talk about everything he heard”. The notion of “freedom” is a very western notion that - in its current form - very alien to the sort of freedom that Islam talks about: minimal freedom that is constrained by rules. Free speech certainly isn’t regarded as part of that minimal freedom. More like “constrained speech”, because of the inherent Islamic belief that free speech brings chaos. In times of Fitnah (tribulation, calamity) people are commanded by the Prophet not to speak a word: “Hold your tongue, stay at your home, and abandon the matters of public”; which is absolutely against free speech because people’s opinions are stirred most when there are events, and they’re commanded to be quiet and bottle it in.
It is just that we, Arabs, are a radically different culture that values stability and tradition. Something of the sort of “People should mind their own business”. Free speech undermines both. It’s a significant cultural difference that the west has no intent to respect, because they regard it as oppressive.
You don’t need to mention a fabricated story to highlight that.
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This is incorrect in its facts and framing. I’m not going to get into a long political discussion, this doesn’t seem the place for it, but I would implore you to look further into this before you start throwing words like fascism and nazi around when you’re talking about people who basically want to give everyone free healthcare.
In the UK it’s the far left (Labour after it was taken over by Momentum) who’ve had major issues with antisemitism and ignored it for years until they were forced to take action. Thirty years ago it would have been the far right. So yes.
So not even a little.
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Well, the Arabic version of that same Wikipedia article provides the Hadeeth transmitter’s analysis of the Hadith regarding Al-‘Asmaa bint Marian, and the verdict that this hadeeth is fabricated (Mawdoo’). It simply isn’t true. Moreover, the language of the claimed poet - I’m an Arab - is far different from the language of the time, far from being poetic, and the statement claimed that Prophet Muhammad said has a ver…