I mean, I get “why”. But nonetheless this is having and eating cake at its best.
Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#132When it comes to IT-required mobile crapware:
- Install it on a burner phone, not your real device.
- Install it on an Android emulator (e.g. Nox Player) on a laptop PC.
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#133- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - I beg your pardon? - My Pinephone runs a modified version of Debian, the Universal Operating System. - ... What is that? - Oh fine. I'll settle for a Flatpack then. - I'm not sure I follow. -Does Qatar's Law require me to have an Android phone xor an iPhone? - No ... ? - Well your Law s…
If they really really want to track people:
- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store.
- Do you have a Debian package?
- Give me a moment to check our database of alternative OSes.. Why yes, yes, we do have this as a Debian package.
- ... Well... is the app truly compulsory?
- Yes Sir, indeed it is I'm afraid. Security, safety and all that.
- ...
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#134Permissions from Aurora Store (3rd party to Play Store): Hayya: - control vibration - have full network access - prevent phone from sleeping - run at startup - run foreground service - view Wi-Fi connections - view network connections - access sensor data at a high sampling rate - access approximate location only in the foreground - access precise location only the foreground - listen to C2DM messages Etheraz: - acce…
I'm guessing they used some framework and the libraries they used ask for a broad set of permissions because they offer access to their functions. But they're not necessarily used.
Also considering they're asking for a permission for a protocol that was shut down 7 years ago, the framework must be quite old. Android permissions were less granular back then.
I know someone in Germany and their covid tracking app tells you when and where you were close to someone who was last tested positive. So everyone does it the same way, recording location.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
The danger is enabling them and normalizing these particular laws. It's objectively wrong to punish people for being gay.
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Why is arrogant? Because I'm claiming a moral value is objective?
I believe certain moral issues are objective. I'm not a philosopher or anything similar so I can't go into depth but moral relativism and subjective morality are debated subjects. Here's a great article on objective morality.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/excellent-beauty/201...
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. It's an inversion so that you're the bad guy for taking a look at the ledger you both (implicitly or explicitly) agreed to use. Variations of: "Hey can I get back that $50 I lent you? I always pay you back and thought we had a mutual understanding, what gives?" "Nice whataboutism, quit trying to make it about me."
You example doesn't make sense for this situation. It's between two people and things they did. However, The OP isn't the US government and hasn't committed war crimes (I assume). Also your example isn't even whataboutism which is defined as "the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue." What other accusation or difficult qu…
Holding another group or person to the same/similar standard is often called "whataboutism" though. I will concede that that is probably misplaced (and malicious) application and not what was originally intended.
That's why claims of hypocrisy against the other party, backed up with examples of the same behavior in other situations from them instead of you, can be cheaply dismissed as "whataboutism".
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#137Wouldn't an easy work-around be to get a cheap new Android phone? I assume you only have to install the apps on one device, if you take two; otherwise, just take the new one. I doubt that the expense would be an issue for somebody attending the World Cup. It seems like this would be good practice these days for any international travel.
At some point few years ago it became practically impossible to do any business in China from the outside without what's app (no idea why as allegedly its banned there). This is around the some time samsung had their "My Knox" feature on their S8 or S9 phone. This feature was like an isolated container for apps, an android equivalent of VM. The purpose was to place your banking and other critical apps there and the n…
Xiaomi have a similar feature, where only some specific combination of buttons/fingerprins would unlock the phone into the special mode containing the special apps (so more tailored for stuff you want to hide than the inverse).
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I went to China I got a phone to run WeChat, which I erased and reinstalled once I got back. Android phones are cheap now, you can get something which is quite decent for a couple hundred dollars.
Cut that by a factor of 10. If you need do be connected, but don't care about things like cameras or gaming specks, then I can get you an android phone for the equivalent of about $30. This is cheap enough to throw in the trash as you board for your flight home. Connectivity is a slightly larger problem. In some places you can get a prepaid SIM card for less than a dollar, other places need some form of registration.…
> This is cheap enough to throw in the trash as you board for your flight home.
Maybe you know this and it's just an expression, but just in case: never throw electronics in the trash. At the very least the battery is toxic and needs recycling, but other parts of it probably too.
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#139This was the same situation for the UEFA Women’s Euros in England this year. For those wondering, the app was simply for storing, transferring, and displaying your tickets. A ticket being a QR code for you to scan at the stadium turnstiles. Was the app required? Absolutely not, there was nothing specific that the mobile app could do that a simple website couldn’t (apart from the screen brightness jumping to 100% when…
Paper tickets can be resold into the tout/scalper market. Electronic tickets can't. That's a nice feature for FIFA.
It seems like it adds a barrier, but wouldn't the scalpers just sell phones with the app and ticket loaded? Old Android phones are quite cheap.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The great news is that just like you're not forced to buy an Android or iOS device, you're not forced to travel to Qatar. "Vote with your feet" applies to jurisdictions just like it applies to technologies. Of course, like with technologies, making such a choice has the potential to limit you in other ways.
Do not worry, the WEF and UN will be diligently taking notes of this field test and by the time it's rolled out in your country this will be resolved. I cannot wait to have a social credit score! It is a wonderful idea and I am only disappointed that our wise un-elected WEF and UN leaders are being so shy in rolling it out.
No kidding. If we miraculously pull out of this nose dive before climate change erases us all we’re immediately going to be tossed into a world where AI makes us basically zoo animals for the ultra wealthy.