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Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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My point was that in countries that make private, consensual activities against the law there are much more severe consequences possible for events that compromise your privacy.

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Wouldn't an easy work-around be to get a cheap new Android phone? I assume you only have to install the apps on one device, if you take two; otherwise, just take the new one. I doubt that the expense would be an issue for somebody attending the World Cup. It seems like this would be good practice these days for any international travel.

When I went to China I got a phone to run WeChat, which I erased and reinstalled once I got back. Android phones are cheap now, you can get something which is quite decent for a couple hundred dollars.

As long as it runs WeChat, does it need to be decent?

Probably being bad is a feature here, because you won't be tempted to use the phone that's infected.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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"And in a country where e.g. homosexuality is illegal this kind of stuff presents additional dangers beyond compromising your privacy." What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? You are in danger in any country if you entry it with the intent of breaking the laws.

Some of the players must be homosexual? Should they not enter Qatar, and scrafice playing for their country in the World Cup? Should Fifa hold the world cup in a country when some of their players could be prosecuted because of their sexuality?

FIFA was criticized for hosting the World Cup in a country that persecutes homosexuals. FIFA responded by extracting some concessionary-sounding statements from some Quatari officials. But the law hasn’t changed. Homosexuals who visit Qatar are most certainly still facing elevated risks. FIFA should be ashamed, but I suspect nobody has bribed them enough to activate their shame reflex yet.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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"And in a country where e.g. homosexuality is illegal this kind of stuff presents additional dangers beyond compromising your privacy." What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? You are in danger in any country if you entry it with the intent of breaking the laws.

Some of the players must be homosexual? Should they not enter Qatar, and scrafice playing for their country in the World Cup? Should Fifa hold the world cup in a country when some of their players could be prosecuted because of their sexuality?

Qatar also practices modern-day slavery.

https://dohanews.co/report-qatar-fifth-highest-proportion-sl... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Qatar#Slavery

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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> This is really no different than what other countries do, e.g. US border officials extensively questioning foreigners or asking for usernames and passwords for social media. I’ve never encountered this when crossing a border and don’t even know how I would sensibly answer any of this. I don’t use social media and don’t travel with a smart phone. So what now? Would they make me buy one in the airport and sign up for…

It's definitely a thing. I believe ESTA now asks for all social media user names (not passwords, but I suppose the US government doesn't need those), and it is definitely a requirement for getting a US visa.

They ask but it’s not a requirement to fill it in.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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It seems like owning an iPhone is a good way to protect yourself from a lot of this. But if you're an Android user, couldn't you buy a burner phone for these two apps, to avoid installing them on your primary phone?

I don't think I would trust a device that ever had these apps installed.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Wouldn't an easy work-around be to get a cheap new Android phone? I assume you only have to install the apps on one device, if you take two; otherwise, just take the new one. I doubt that the expense would be an issue for somebody attending the World Cup. It seems like this would be good practice these days for any international travel.

Install it on a cheap Android phone, and "forget to charge" it.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - I beg your pardon? - My Pinephone runs a modified version of Debian, the Universal Operating System. - ... What is that? - Oh fine. I'll settle for a Flatpack then. - I'm not sure I follow. -Does Qatar's Law require me to have an Android phone xor an iPhone? - No ... ? - Well your Law s…

It is certainly unsettling how laws will blindly introduce a dependency on Google or Apple
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