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Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android and iOS have almost equal market share in Norway. Worldwide Android is a lot bigger (~70%). This affects most people, just not in the US.

You can’t grant access on iOS “to view / edit / delete all/any data”, that’s physically not possible, even with the hidden SDKs that only select parties have access to.

Doesn't Apple's MDM allow that?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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post #15

This is really no different than what other countries do, e.g. US border officials extensively questioning foreigners or asking for usernames and passwords for social media. As a visitor you have to abide by the law of the country, which may be different from your own country, and whose interpretation may be stretched by border control at the point of entry. The only difference here is that they were able to build an…

> The only difference here is that they were able to build an app to do all the tracking in plain sight. I'm sure governments in the US and Europe would love to be able to force all visitors to install a similar app.

Yet, we do not because unlike in Qatar, the UAE and other religious dictatorships, we are a democracy and we have the ability to change our government.

You can do better than whatbouatism.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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post #19

Is it still not possible to allow an app read/write access to only a single directory on Android? Ony all directories or none? From a quick check on my Android, that seems to be the case. How archaic. Why is it this way?

It is possible, with Scoped Storage. The problem is that apps know when they've been denied permissions, so it will indicate that, and then you'll be either refused entry or thrown in jail.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Wouldn't an easy work-around be to get a cheap new Android phone? I assume you only have to install the apps on one device, if you take two; otherwise, just take the new one. I doubt that the expense would be an issue for somebody attending the World Cup.

It seems like this would be good practice these days for any international travel.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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> access to read, delete or change all content on the phone The article is pure fiction, as no app has any possibility of ever being granted those permissions on iOS. No such capability even exists for any app on an iPhone.

what is with you people thinking like nothing else other than Apple products exist?

> what is with you people thinking like nothing else other than Apple products exist?

I was addressing the specific claim that “everyone” had to give these permissions.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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post #3

A fair bit of fear mongering and false news here… almost all of these permissions are not possible on an iPhone / and likely not even possible on modern android!

Yep lucky us 30% of smartphones holders are safe; nothing to see here.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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The permissions mentioned sound like someone that doesn't understand the permissions systems used by Android and iPhone tried to translate them. So this part of the article is almost useless as it is hard to figure out what permissions the app actually has. I don't understand the Android permissions system well enough here, but I would be especially curious about which API version this is targeting as I don't know ho…

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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> access to read, delete or change all content on the phone The article is pure fiction, as no app has any possibility of ever being granted those permissions on iOS. No such capability even exists for any app on an iPhone.

A small minority of mobile devices are iphones .... Most of the world uses Android devices manufactured in China.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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The permissions mentioned sound like someone that doesn't understand the permissions systems used by Android and iPhone tried to translate them. So this part of the article is almost useless as it is hard to figure out what permissions the app actually has. I don't understand the Android permissions system well enough here, but I would be especially curious about which API version this is targeting as I don't know ho…

"And in a country where e.g. homosexuality is illegal this kind of stuff presents additional dangers beyond compromising your privacy."

What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? You are in danger in any country if you entry it with the intent of breaking the laws.

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