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The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by faeriechangling »

registeredcorn wrote: post #17

The adulation towards voluntary segregation disturbs me. I can't help but explain this queer desire as some sort of side effect of the various "bans" against discrimination. As best I can tell, regardless of circumstance or intent, there is a fundamental hunger for sameness, and the exclusion of otherness. I don't see that as good or bad, but merely a confusion of ideas counter to everything the world seems to bombar…

People never changed their attitudes, they just updated their language and their branding. In every era and in every identity group you have your MLK's and your Malcolm X's.

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Post by dragonwriter »

wrycoder wrote: post #13
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a quote from the NYT article: > But attacks would come from the left, not the right. Arab and Muslim filmmakers and their white supporters accused Ms. Smaker of Islamophobia and American propaganda. Some suggested her race was disqualifying, a white woman who presumed to tell the story of Arab men. > Sundance leaders reversed themselves and apologized. > Abigail Disney, a grandniece of Walt Disney, had been t…

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> The attraction of the left to Islam is a marriage of convenience. Libs don’t exist in Muslim majority countries.

Libs aren’t the left, and both libs and leftists exist in Muslim majority countries.

Heck, there are enough leftists in Turkey for there to be a Wikipedia category page for “Socialist Parties in Turkey”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Socialist_parties_i...

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Post by 8f2ab37a-ed6c »

What's remarkable is that I can't imagine anything will happen to the activists behind the cancellation. They will lose no credibility. Have no drop in reputation. No public ridicule. They'll simply move on to the next target in the hopes that they will bend the knee with less resistance than Meg.

Doing these cancellations is effectively risk-free, and only incurs the opportunity cost of not deploying time onto a higher ROI target.

No idea what can be done about that in the current cultural climate.

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Post by civilized »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #9
whymauri wrote: post #5

Similar article from the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/25/us/sundance-jihad-rehab-m... With a lot less whining about 'the woke mob'.

This is a quote from the NYT article: > But attacks would come from the left, not the right. Arab and Muslim filmmakers and their white supporters accused Ms. Smaker of Islamophobia and American propaganda. Some suggested her race was disqualifying, a white woman who presumed to tell the story of Arab men. > Sundance leaders reversed themselves and apologized. > Abigail Disney, a grandniece of Walt Disney, had been t…

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Post by prng2021 »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #19

3h podcast with Meg Smaker on the Waking Up podcast: https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/300...

I almost stopped listening pretty early on because she was all over the place with her talking points, but am really glad I listened to the end. It was a fascinating and moving story.

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Post by 8f2ab37a-ed6c »

subpixel wrote: post #22

“More than 230 filmmakers signed a letter denouncing the documentary. A majority had not seen it.” Just a reminder that the far ends of the political spectrum loop back and connect.

This is all reminiscent of the 80s and 90s Christian right groups picketing outside of Rock and Roll concerts demanding that Marilyn Manson be forbidden from playing in their town because of his corrupting influence on the youth, that his music was going to lead to real physical harm. Same with dungeons and dragons before that. Had any of them ever listened to that music? Ever played a D&D session? Nope.

It's interesting how easy it was to ignore and ridicule those movements at the time, we'd go "ah, those silly fundies", how quaint. Remember Kevin Smith picketing with them outside of movie theaters at the Dogma premiere? We got a good chuckle out of it.

Yet look at how seriously the same people are taking the current flavor of moral panic.

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Post by brutusborn »

subpixel wrote: post #22

“More than 230 filmmakers signed a letter denouncing the documentary. A majority had not seen it.” Just a reminder that the far ends of the political spectrum loop back and connect.

Is this from another article or did you change the quote? The article says "...signed by over 200 filmmakers, many of whom had never seen the film"

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Post by dang »

wrycoder wrote: post #13
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a quote from the NYT article: > But attacks would come from the left, not the right. Arab and Muslim filmmakers and their white supporters accused Ms. Smaker of Islamophobia and American propaganda. Some suggested her race was disqualifying, a white woman who presumed to tell the story of Arab men. > Sundance leaders reversed themselves and apologized. > Abigail Disney, a grandniece of Walt Disney, had been t…

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Religious flamewar is not welcome here. No more of this, please.

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