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Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Typical right-wing reactionary environmental policy. When you do not have any climate-related politics to bring to the table, all you do is shout "nuclear" at the top of your lungs and tote it as the solution to everything climate. > Much of the resistance towards 100% Renewable Energy (RE) systems in the literature seems to come from the a-priori assumption that an energy system based on solar and wind is impossible…

I guess you were downvoted for the first paragraph but the core claim you've made later on is factually accurate. Getting 80 percent of the grid onto RE, with no storage required to do that, is far cheaper and far quicker than nuclear. The variability is a non-issue. The idea that variability is a problem is propaganda by the fossil fuel lobby. They know that nuclear is too slow to build and too expensive so they create this false narrative to slow the real solution. Then people lap up the false narrative without actually checking whether it's true because it's plausible-sounding and it aligns with their partisan tribe.

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Then it'd be good to mention what this storage mechanism is, and examples of existing commercial deployments said storage mechanism and their cost history. It's odd to see someone insist that the solution is so obvious that anyone who doesn't recognize it is trolling, yet they neglect to mention what that solution is.

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Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Storage is a common answer, but it has problems of its own. Presumably the OP considers these problems fatal; if you disagree, say so and explain why.

OP could explain why they imagine fatal problems. Would, if they were not just trolling.

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The new coalition government has pledged $40B (approximately the market cap of Twitter, heh) in loan guarantees for nuclear power construction. They have also pledged to create legal guarantees that future politicians will not be able to shut down functioning nuclear power reactors without suitable monetary compensation to the owners/operators of these reactors. In addition to this, they are commissioning an urgent s…

There exists a group of folks who claim nuclear isn't green and is going to 'kill the planet'. The alternative to nuclear is to either use fuels with a massive carbon footprint, or introduce a level of energy suffering on the population that is beyond the pale. You are exactly right - this is the only way.

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Not when you take the capacity factor into account. Nuclear reactors have far higher capacity factors than wind and solar.

Even after you take capacity factor into account.

And the cost of the backup power for when wind and solar don't generate enough?

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> because simple technical measures mitigate it. And what simple technical measure mitigates it in a cost effective manner? Hydroelectricity is one, but it's geographically dependent. Sweden already has about 30% of it's electricity coming from dams, but it still needs to built more nuclear plants to fulfill it's demand. And most countries have even less hydroelectric generation than Sweden. Besides hydroelectricity,…

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Expensive but technically feasible, plus making Europe at the mercy of unstable regimes across the Mediterranean. That worked just fine with natural gas imports from Russia right?

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This is such BS.

You assert that renewables projects do not start producing power before completion? I can cite hundreds that have done. I have never heard of a single nuke plant that produced before it was completed.

I was referring to the absurd claim that the oil and coal industry is pro-nuclear. If it wasn't for anti-science "environmentalists" we could have replaced ever single coal and gas power plant with nuclear by now.

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Germany is a densely populated country. We already don't know where to put the nuclear waste. No one wants it on his or her doorstep. The cost of storage alone is a nightmare. The nuclear exit was supported by the population and not decided against them by politicians. And to your criticism: A lot of politicians in germany are lawyers. Are they allowed do decide for the country? Do they have an idea about nuclear top…

How do ya’ll manage to live next door to France? They seem to have it figured out.

Didn’t they have to shut down a load of nuclear this summer because they couldn’t cool it sufficiently?

Can’t see that getting any better climate wise

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There exists a group of folks who claim nuclear isn't green and is going to 'kill the planet'. The alternative to nuclear is to either use fuels with a massive carbon footprint, or introduce a level of energy suffering on the population that is beyond the pale. You are exactly right - this is the only way.

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Yup.
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