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Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by jjr8 »

ilamont wrote: post #4

Something similar happened to the cod fishing industry in Newfoundland and other parts of eastern Canada 30 years ago. The reason: overfishing, due in large part to technological advances. Here's what happened: Canada and NAFO continued to overestimate the abundance of cod in the Atlantic Ocean and therefore continued to set dangerously high [Total Allowable Catches]. This was in large part due to the widespread prac…

Climate change (warming waters) has been directly implicated in this (edit: Gulf of Maine cod) situation.

https://doi.org/10.1126%2Fscience.aac9819

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by uxp100 »

beefman wrote: post #86
ilamont wrote: post #4

Something similar happened to the cod fishing industry in Newfoundland and other parts of eastern Canada 30 years ago. The reason: overfishing, due in large part to technological advances. Here's what happened: Canada and NAFO continued to overestimate the abundance of cod in the Atlantic Ocean and therefore continued to set dangerously high [Total Allowable Catches]. This was in large part due to the widespread prac…

Great song about it by Finest Kind (sadly not properly available online): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX6dJgmof0E

Interesting what is and isn’t available. Because I clicked this link to see not recognizing the name Finest Kind and was like, oh they play that on the folk program pretty often, I know that song.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by outworlder »

logicalmonster wrote: post #72
woodruffw wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any evidence to back this up, or is this just xenophobic speculation? China’s encroachment on sovereign waters for fishing is one thing when it’s against South American countries with small navies; it’s another thing entirely when it’s the US. I doubt they’re behind this.

Why are you assuming that the poster is hinting at China when his comment didn't mention the country?

If the shoe fits...

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by outworlder »

ijidak wrote: post #2

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> On a serious note, Earth is in trouble.

Earth is not in trouble. It has survived worse extinction events just fine.

We, along with all current living species, are the ones in trouble.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by outworlder »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #9
ijidak wrote: post #2

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Meh, our ability to change the earth grows every year sooner or later we'll fix it.

> Meh, our ability to change the earth grows every year sooner or later we'll fix it.

You are talking about geoengineering.

It would be way better not to have to do such things in the first place. This is like "meh, sooner or later we'll be able to grow entire organs, you can keep smoking". Sure. But is that day coming soon enough? And what are the drawbacks of such a large intervention?

Besides, species are going extinct every day. We can't get them back.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by MisterSandman »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #55
werdnapk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Earth isn't in trouble, but we are. Earth will continue on and we'll end up as a minor footnote in the history of the planet.

The anthropocene will be visible in every history of the planet as one of the most rapid changes in every geologically and archaeologically observable metric, on the scale of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. The asteroid may vanished in a massive conflagration, but people don't talk about it because that particular lump of space rock went extinct, they talk about all the other changes that came about as a resu…

Citation needed. It really depends on the geological time scale you're talking about. Geoscientists are still in debate of whether the Anthropocene should be added as it's epoch - yes, humans have had an impact, but it's hard to concretely state that the impact will be noticeable enough that another species would demarcate our existence as such.
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