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Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by rdez6173 »

prvit wrote: post #267
thwayunion wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. In an alternate universe, the Chief Information Security Officer of Equifax is giving interviews about the dangers of work from home for cyber security roles, informed by her masters in music composition and 0.0 years of IC experience as deep expertise. I'm still astounded no one ended up in jail over that. Software Engineering really does need some professionalization.

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The only person that made this about the CISOs gender is you. OPs point was about the lack of credentials, which would apply to anyone.

I think it's a reasonable conclusion to draw, due to the nature of the very sensitive data at risk.

Having professional accreditation that you should be overseeing the security of peoples most sensitive information is objectively a good idea.

Muddying the conversation with virtual signaling is more surprising to see on HN.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by sschueller »

Isn't the whole thing of being classified a contractor that you are not bound to one employer? If you are bound then you are an employee.

How skewed is the system when all the bad things of being a contract worker applies but any of the benefits are taken away? This is getting ridiculous.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by cimi_ »

prvit wrote: post #267
thwayunion wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. In an alternate universe, the Chief Information Security Officer of Equifax is giving interviews about the dangers of work from home for cyber security roles, informed by her masters in music composition and 0.0 years of IC experience as deep expertise. I'm still astounded no one ended up in jail over that. Software Engineering really does need some professionalization.

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I first thought you're right and the joke is not ok - but it's not a joke: https://archive.ph/Afnyl

How is it sexism if it's true? Or should people not bring this up because she's a woman?

I think the problem is Equifax's record of handling (non-consenting) user's data, and that causes resentment - not that the CISO was a woman.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by thwayunion »

prvit wrote: post #267
thwayunion wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. In an alternate universe, the Chief Information Security Officer of Equifax is giving interviews about the dangers of work from home for cyber security roles, informed by her masters in music composition and 0.0 years of IC experience as deep expertise. I'm still astounded no one ended up in jail over that. Software Engineering really does need some professionalization.

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Oh, please.

People in technical leadership roles should have formal training and should have spent some time in the trenches, full stop. We hold most other specialized leadership roles to this standard: Chief Financial Officers, Chief Legal Officers, Chief Medical Officers, etc. Why not CTOs and CISOs?

> nasty sexism... male CISO at other company...

The article is about Equifax. I am commenting about Equifax. This is not about gender.

I'm well aware that this problem is pervasive in American business culture. The article is about Equifax. So I am commenting about Equifax.

> Turns out Susan Maudin at Equifax had decades of relevant experience:

Those are all also management roles. She went from non-cybersecurity into cybersecurity management and then worked her way up the management chain.

She had no formal training in IT/CS, no experience as an IC in IT/CS, and her organization royally screwed up.

Expecting relevant formal education and relevant IC experience is not sexist.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by prvit »

cimi_ wrote: post #284
prvit wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I first thought you're right and the joke is not ok - but it's not a joke: https://archive.ph/Afnyl How is it sexism if it's true? Or should people not bring this up because she's a woman? I think the problem is Equifax's record of handling (non-consenting) user's data, and that causes resentment - not that the CISO was a woman.

>How is it sexism if it's true? Or should people not bring this up because she's a woman?

Nobody would ever bring this up about a man, most CISOs have similar degrees. You haven't even been able to get a formal education on this topic for very long.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by _huayra_ »

Semi-related, but Equifax runs The Work Number, which is basically your "employment credit report / record"; they hoover up the data by agreements with employers that they will share employment info with them.

You can freeze your employment record with them here: https://employees.theworknumber.com/employee-data-freeze/

I highly recommend you do this, as any employer could just decide to look you up using this info and you wouldn't be notified at all (unlike, say, a hard pull on your credit in a regular credit report).

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by TallGuyShort »

aliqot wrote: post #62
TallGuyShort wrote: post #38

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Rental car companies will sometimes not rent to you unless you use a credit card specifically (not a debit card).

That is a good example, thank you. Have you ever overcome this limitation?

Nope. By happy coincidence, I ran into my brother-in-law at the airport as he was discovering this, and I have a credit card that I love collecting points on and just set to autopay.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by sirsinsalot »

prvit wrote: post #271
raydiatian wrote: post #135

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Holy fuck, I never knew this detail.

It's a nasty sexist lie. The person had no relevant degree (as is the case for most people working in security roles, because such degrees didn't exist until very recently). The person did have a literal decades of relevant experience, working in security.

You're going around the threads trying to make this a gender issue. It's a valid criticism of anyone.

In this case they happen to be female.

That doesn't mean the criticism is motivated by gender.

Your gender also doesn't excuse you from criticism.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by thwayunion »

prvit wrote: post #286
cimi_ wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I first thought you're right and the joke is not ok - but it's not a joke: https://archive.ph/Afnyl How is it sexism if it's true? Or should people not bring this up because she's a woman? I think the problem is Equifax's record of handling (non-consenting) user's data, and that causes resentment - not that the CISO was a woman.

>How is it sexism if it's true? Or should people not bring this up because she's a woman? Nobody would ever bring this up about a man, most CISOs have similar degrees. You haven't even been able to get a formal education on this topic for very long.

False. Go read the reams of comments about Boeing's (male) leadership during the 787-MAX disaster.

I'm sick of MBAs with no domain expertise or formal training ruining lives. Making that about gender is insane.

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