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Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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They're making fun of the fact that during the data breach the CISO was someone with a music degree and no background in security.

Holy fuck, I never knew this detail.

It's a nasty sexist lie.

The person had no relevant degree (as is the case for most people working in security roles, because such degrees didn't exist until very recently).

The person did have a literal decades of relevant experience, working in security.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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"Equifax flagged 283 contractors for potential 'dual employment,' documents show." Would this not be a big flag to reclassify these contractors as employees? Being able to have multiple clients is one of the factors to determine if you're a contractor...

If I'm paying you as an employer for a tenporary full time stint, say 50 hrs. work/week and you're not actually punching in and out of time clock for me to track you, I might have suspicions that you're in fact short changing me on the time or quality of work you contracted if you're also working another job. I might be wrong, and you'd have a right to contest that, but I'd probably be right more than wrong on averag…

In breach of what?

No employment contract or agreement I've ever seen has prohibited someone from holding two W2 positions. Competing, sure. Sharing trade secrets is already illegal. Double-billing hours (e.g. on invoices or hourly work) is already illegal.

You're falling into a number of traps, not the least of which is thinking anyone who does contracting would ever agree to 50h/wk for a single client. "I'd be right more than I'd be wrong" is not sufficient justification to put additional requirements on a contract that almost certainly were not there to begin with.

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I have three children. It is literally impossible for me to survive on any salary companies are willing to pay. I work multiple jobs. Idk the solution. It costs me $3,000 a month just for school. That’s a second mortgage. Either they increase pay 50%. Which they don’t want to do. Or I work three jobs. If they don’t like it, pay more. I actually don’t even have a choice, it isn’t even an option. School must get paid f…

You're getting a lot of heat for investing in your children. This makes me sad, though I suspect the people are good intentioned, trying to help you "solve" your problem. I can think of many scenarios where 1K/month/child is the best option. I don't know the quality of schools available in your area, but I do know it can vary wildly, and good school can make a huge difference. And you have my deep respect for the sac…

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Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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The only legal advice anyone should accept from HN is "contact an attorney in your jurisdiction"

I dunno. “Only ever break one law at a time” is pretty universally good advice. But yeah. Call a lawyer… Preferably well before you need one in a hurry.

> “Only ever break one law at a time” is pretty universally good advice.

If you’re breaking zero laws, stop.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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"Equifax flagged 283 contractors for potential 'dual employment,' documents show." Would this not be a big flag to reclassify these contractors as employees? Being able to have multiple clients is one of the factors to determine if you're a contractor...

In the UK there's a set of criteria (IR35) that attempt to codify the distinction. The hiring business has to make the assessment. One of criteria is right to subcontract and freedom to work with multiple clients. If they get it wrong, they're liable for taxes, not the Contractor. HMRC, the UK tax body is responsible for this, and therefore it is an utter mess in practice and has had chilling effects on the UK IT con…

In the UK, them using the data in this way would be a breach of GDPR.

You can only use the data for the purpose you originally stated, and this is not it.

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>Somewhere out there is an unemployed person being rejected from jobs or not getting interviews because this service is providing an incomplete or erroneous employment history. Relax, you can give them any employer you ever had, not just your current one. To get my record I put in a previous employer who doesn't even exist as a company anymore.

> Relax, you can give them any employer you ever had, not just your current one. Not if they don't show up at all like mine. (Tried all four of my past jobs and none of them have shown up.)

Then none of your employers have reported to TWN.

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> The general answer is that people are doing this because they feel undervalued. Merely feeling undervalued isn't enough to induce most people to work two full-time jobs. That's a brutal time commitment even for someone who isn't working very hard at either. People usually do that because neither job pays well enough on its own.

Depends on the job. There’s a growing trend of people getting remote jobs then just hanging out in Slack/Zoom (camera off, never talking) collecting a check til they get fired. In some cases they’ll outsource some work overseas.

How many of these people can there possibly be? Are there really that many jobs with such low visibility, low expectations that someone can get away with Just Not Working for more than a few days before it’s obvious?

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"We expect our team to be fully dedicated to EFX and have one role …their job at EFX," Begor wrote in a recent company-wide email, a copy of which was obtained by Insider. "I am sure you are as disappointed as I am."

I kinda doubt that :)

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Anyone who signs up gets a report showing how their companies compare to others as far as comp goes. So they get to know if they are underpaying or overpaying. They also can pull salary history for an individual who is applying for a job in places where that is legal. But you have to submit your data to get access to everyone else's.

This is pure evil, and should be 100% illegal.

As an employee you can opt out of it

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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In the UK there's a set of criteria (IR35) that attempt to codify the distinction. The hiring business has to make the assessment. One of criteria is right to subcontract and freedom to work with multiple clients. If they get it wrong, they're liable for taxes, not the Contractor. HMRC, the UK tax body is responsible for this, and therefore it is an utter mess in practice and has had chilling effects on the UK IT con…

There is a lot of misconceptions about this. > One of criteria is right to subcontract It's not entirely true. Just because such right exists in the contract, does not mean it is valid. HMRC guidances have a ton of rules where it does not count. For instance if the business could use the sub-contractor directly. > and freedom to work with multiple clients. This is also irrelevant, because exclusive supply agreements…

Seeing as I worked on a CEST adjacent tool in the legislative area, if I don't understand it, then you can see why it is such a mess!
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