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Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by danial » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:23 PM UTC

soulofmischief wrote: post #367

mikae1 wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try https://logseq.com/ ? I've had not reason to pick freemium Obsidian over open source Logseq.

I loved Obsidian to death, but felt a bit of friction. As nice as it was, I wasn't getting sucked in and resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking. Enter Logseq, and after a 20 minute learning curve, ideas just fly off of my fingertips. I reach for it daily. Can't recommend Logseq enough.

I definitely also like logseq better, but find that it doesn't sync well between desktop and iOS app. Have you found good solution for this?

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by fknorangesite » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

smesla wrote: post #405

Out of curiosity, why is Obsidian closed source? It doesn't look like you charge for anything, and with the size and type of following you have, you'd probably see some really cool stuff get sent your way.

> It doesn't look like you charge for anything,

https://obsidian.md/pricing

https://obsidian.md/sync

https://obsidian.md/publish

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by selykg » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:26 PM UTC

kepano wrote: post #372

selykg wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an understatement. The mobile app is... frankly, kind of a garbage can of usability issues imo, but I love the desktop app, it's pretty great. But until they fix the mobile app I just can't use it. I'd like to see the mobile app bridge the gap between typical mobile note taking apps and the desktop Obsidian app. Make it easy to create a new note like you would in any other note app, save it where it makes sens…

Did you try the 1.0 version of mobile app? It's much improved compared to past versions. What are the issues you are running into?

Just downloaded. Seems a little better. I wish I could easily create a note in whatever folder I am in currently. I have an inbox folder. It’s where new notes go until I can deal with them. This always drove me nuts in both apps, but I can’t just go into a folder. Look at Apple Notes for instance as a simple example of how this works.

The sidebar is just a tree in Obsidian. It doesn’t really act how I want. This is less an issue on desktop, but on mobile my expectations are different.

Hopefully sync setup has improved in mobile. That was awful last I tried it.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by codethief » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:37 PM UTC

Congrats on reaching v1.0!

Does anyone have any experience with their Android app? How well does it work these days?

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by Daunk » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:39 PM UTC

I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but this is an honest question.

What would I use Obsidian for? Is it just for writing stuff down? And if so; how would I access these notes on something like my phone? I tend to just write down things and store attachments in "Saved Messages" on Telegram. That way I can access it all via my phone, home computer, work computer or the web.

How would Obsidian be better?

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:48 PM UTC

shrvtv wrote: post #379

The app experience is totally ruined now. It's insanity for me to see 1Password 7 to 8 transition level of nonsense again. Block-quotes are no longer quotes, just text with a strip of light on the left with no option to make it more obvious. File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it. Performance sucks so much, and that is on an eight-core x64 mobile CPU running Windows 10 Pro. Everyt…

> The app experience is totally ruined now. It's insanity for me to see 1Password 7 to 8 transition level of nonsense again.

I really, really don't think this kind of catastrophizing is appropriate. A lot of your complaints are incredibly minor things, and are resolved through configuration.

> Most extensions don't care and don't render properly. Fckn great, man.

This absolutely has not been my experience and the level of vitriol is completely inappropriate. Extensions are developed by third-parties in their own time, and provided for free. Have you made sure all your 'broken' extensions are up to date? Have you verified they are compatible? Have you checked to see there are issues opened in the extension's git repo? Have you submitted PRs to fix the issues you've come across?

I've been using Obsidian for about a year, and about six months ago, I paid for Catalyst to have access to insider builds and to support development. In that time, Obsidian has gotten significantly better.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by tdido » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:48 PM UTC

danial wrote: post #411

soulofmischief wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved Obsidian to death, but felt a bit of friction. As nice as it was, I wasn't getting sucked in and resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking. Enter Logseq, and after a 20 minute learning curve, ideas just fly off of my fingertips. I reach for it daily. Can't recommend Logseq enough.

I definitely also like logseq better, but find that it doesn't sync well between desktop and iOS app. Have you found good solution for this?

I sync my journal directory using syncthing and it works reasonably well.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by badtension » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:48 PM UTC

Out of curiosity, can you share more on your pricing strategy? What is actually paying for your development? It looks like you give away a lot for free, do you do that cause the server costs are nil without e.g. sync?

Can you share the rough number of users in each tier/service?

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by dominotw » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:50 PM UTC

The5thElephant wrote: post #378

wbharding wrote: post #67

Between Obsidian, Roam, Amplenote, and Reflect it has certainly been a golden age for note taking over the last few years. It's hard to remember that it was only 5 years ago that second generation note apps like Evernote, Notion and Bear were the only viable options unless you wanted a 1st gen app like OneNote or Workflowy. What might be most interesting about the new set of fast moving note apps is that all seem to…

My issue is that it feels like none of these tools do anything significantly new, and are all so obsessed with wonky features like node-graph views and backlinks that are only useful to a niche audience of obsessive note-takers who in many cases seem to care more about playing with their notes than actually using or sharing them. That's why I'm working on creating https://visible.page because I want a tool that isn't…

> only useful to a niche audience of obsessive note-takers who in many cases seem to care more about playing with their notes than actually using or sharing them.

This describes me perfectly. I use obsidian to 'feel productive' but not actually do any work.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by c7b » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:50 PM UTC

The description sounds interesting! Can anyone comment on how this compares to or integrates with Anki? I've found SRS to be really powerful, but I'd like to integrate it more with note-taking.