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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by saxonww »

qubitcoder wrote: post #620
saxonww wrote: post #521

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I don't think it's this simple. RCS is implemented by carriers and is a feature of mobile service like SMS. It has a qualification/accreditation process. iMessage is an internet service. If I were Apple, I would not budge. I haven't used iMessage, so I don't know how it behaves, but my own personal RCS experience has not been good. I am on Google Fi and make heavy use of Google Messages and specifically their web app…

Respectfully, this comment solidifies why iMessage is superior. Try sending a 4K HDR video, or low-quality video, files, or photos with a resolution greater than a Nokia phone from 10 years ago, or a multitude of other things over SMS. Signal, WhatsApp, etc. don't come close to what iMessage offers seamlessly. For iPhone/macOS/iPadOS users, SMS is garbage. Yes, it's a closed system; but it works without a cell signal…

Oh I agree with you, and that's something I forgot to mention - if you do SMS/MMS routed through Fi, they downscale everything. Forget 4k video - any video you take is getting repackaged as a .3gpp file at very low resolution (144p? idk, it's pretty bad). Audio-only clips are similarly compressed a lot, and very noisy as a result. Images don't seem to be affected, but I haven't tried sending anything big.

It's not useless, but vastly better for short text conversations than anything else. Not surprising, it's SMS.

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Post by hdlothia »

JPKab wrote: post #664
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As a parent of a toddler wondering why you deactivate th data. To disincentivize sneaking out? Preventing game addiction or too much social media?

Game addiction. See my other comments. Modern games/apps are highly addictive and damaging to kids, and deprive them of sleep.

do you have any other kids? do you find boys are more susceptible to this or is it relateively gender neutral?

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Post by mixmastamyk »

armadsen wrote: post #654
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< 7 is now unsupported for the latest OS. Maybe will get one more bugfix.

Apple releases security updates for older OSes. They recently released iOS 12.5.6, for example.

Not for long as my comment alludes.

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Post by plsbenice34 »

JPKab wrote: post #660
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"monitoring the little bastard doesn't know about via my WiFi router" proves for me but of course that will be a matter of opinion

My son and I have a great relationship. I’m originally from West Virginia. Its our way of saying “good kid, gets into trouble sometimes though”. He’s a straight A student. When he had unmonitored internet, he wasn’t. His friends who have unmonitored internet aren’t. Leaving teenagers with anytime unfiltered internet access to highly addictive services like TikTok is scientifically shown to be harmful. He’s not an adu…

To me it is an enormous step toward abuse when it is monitoring that the 16 year old doesn't know about. Even for a much younger child I would find that very disturbing. Just doing some filtering or time limits is completely different. I'm over 30 now and if I found out even now that my parents surveilled me secretly when I was 16 I would be disgusted, so just be prepared that your child will never talk to you again if he finds out, if he's anything like me. Maybe he is friendly with you now but it is on false grounds because he doesnt know what you are doing and you are deceiving him

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Post by meragrin_ »

xcrunner529 wrote: post #575
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You know why they wanted to differentiate iMessage? It caused issues with SMS. They knew it. They wanted an easy out for the incompatibilities. It is a problem with the "plebs" not Apple. The "plebs" were just holding their phones wrong. After all, even iPhone users don't know how to hold their phone. How can "plebs" be expected to know how to hold their phones if iPhone user can't? Apple could fix this if they wante…

No they did it so you knew when it was in and could use the features. There’s no “issue” with SMS.

Tell that to all the people who cannot respond to group messages sent to them from iPhone users.

https://www.android.com/get-the-message/

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Post by setr »

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Sure they do; that’s what the big logo is for

They highlight themselves but they don't highlight other shoes in a negative light.

I’m not sure how you can reasonably argue that the chosen shade of green is a negative light on android texts. Any negativity is generated by the social systems interacting with it — the colors, and logos, just give enough information for those social systems to differentiate, and qualify, and judge your usage of, these objects.

Apple hasn’t done much of anything to say android texts are bad… they’ve just said they’re not iPhone texts (and iPhone—>iPhone has better texting). Everyone else came along and said android is for poor people, and used those green bubbles as a signal to act on — just the same as using the logo to judge your shoes.

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Post by GekkePrutser »

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But with Android you get much more features for the money. All Android phones are bezelless for instance, even the cheapest budget phone. The SE still rocks the iPhone 8 design from 2017 with all its drawbacks. Personally I don't use Apple because I have far too many things I can't do on it (mostly due to their restrictions in the app store, like using open PGP keys over NFC). But if I did I'd never consider the SE.

Why is bezelless a “feature” or improvement?

Because it's optimising the usable surface of the phone of course. The bezels don't serve any purpose other than they were technically necessary during the first years of smartphones.

On a tablet you can use them to hold the device but a smartphone is small enough to grip by the edges only.

And OLED really is a total must-have for me these days.

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Post by kuschku »

hacym wrote: post #753
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The budget option is the phone I can get for 150€ without plan, and then combine it with a separate 5€/month plan from my carrier.

I think you have to seriously consider if there is any market for that. Any $150 Android phone is going to be worthless for modern use.

There's quite a few good Android Go and Xiaomi phones in that price segment.

As you might recall, when the first Moto G was released in that price segment, within of a year it became the most sold phone in several countries.

That's a massive market.

It's only the US, Scandinavia and Japan where upmarket Apple devices are so popular.

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Post by hacym »

lostmsu wrote: post #764
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> Or they could have recalled faulty devices, you know. To fix them and provide the experience they promised originally. It’s not faulty devices, and a quick google search will show you that cell phone batteries have a lifespan of 2-3 years in average.

> It’s not faulty devices, and a quick google search will show you that cell phone batteries have a lifespan of 2-3 years in average. Please, try reading this again > The issue is not that battery degrades, it is that their phones could not handle it and shut off when charge still remained.

The capacity of the battery was the issue, unless you’re talking about a different issue. Older batteries were unable to meet the power demands.

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

bloqs wrote: post #322

Americans, do people not use whatsapp over there? In Europe everyone uses whatsapp for literally everything, with a sprinkling of Telegram if you are into something a little subversive and Signal if you actually care about privacy. The only time I use text/sms is to recieve codes for things, and I'm doing that less and less.

I have a lot of European and Israeli neighborhoods, and unfortunately they are very deep in the WhatsApp ecosystem. It's painful.
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