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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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The US is straight out of a dystopia from an European perspective.

iPhone = Dystopia?

No,

Dystopia = everyone must buy an iphone as solution to the problem instead of just using an app that's not restricted to iphones

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Yep, for me, it is banking. N26 (Europe) requires you to have a smartphone and a SIM card. Obtaining a SIM card means that you need to identify yourself. You can't just have a smartphone. The OS needs to be unrooted and also mainstream (iOS/Android). This really sucks. Furthermore, Google and Discord lock your accounts, if you don't provide a phone number. The alternative might be to use an Android/iOS just for banki…

> Is it even possible within the EU to buy one without identification? If it’s a prepaid one, sure. Just go to the supermarket in NL and get one for 10€, pay with cash.

Obviously, if you’re in one of the many EU countries that require identification (even if simpler than Germany’s video identification system) it’s not trivial to go to a supermarket in NL.

I imagine it’s possible to buy one online from NL, CZ, the UK if it has EU roaming, etc.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Not in most European or African countries, majority is on pre-paid, and phones only get replaced when there is an actual reason, not that two years have gone by.

~80 % market share for contracts (post-paid) in Germany: https://www.statista.com/topics/7772/mobile-communications-i...

~75%

And post-paid mobile contracts don't mean that the phone is paid for by the contract.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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The month-day-year format is the standard for 4.23% of the global population, but it's the default in most IT systems, including every globally-deployed cloud system I have ever used. What's your point?

You should say thank you for localization system.

Ah yes, that system where if I see a date like 11/12/22 on the web, then I can safely assume it is one of the following:

    12th of November 2022
    11th of December 2022
    22nd of December 2011
Until I see a "disambiguating" date in the exact same context, I have localization to thank for making it impossible to determine what I'm seeing.

And I mean exact same context, because there are web portal where you will see date formats in multiple formats on the same page!

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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If this statistic is true, it would mean that Google's Android will have a poor future - at least in the USA.

I'd expect a significant portions to switch once they're paying for their own phone instead of being bankrolled by mum & dad.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Kinda makes me glad we have WhatsApp dominance in Europe.

For all it's faults at least we're not trapped in an Apple Ecosystem where all other phones still use SMS!

I haven't sent an SMS in maybe 13 years. It's amazing it's still so widely used in the US because of iMessage lockout.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Kinda makes me glad we have WhatsApp dominance in Europe. For all it's faults at least we're not trapped in an Apple Ecosystem where all other phones still use SMS! I haven't sent an SMS in maybe 13 years. It's amazing it's still so widely used in the US because of iMessage lockout.

iMessage doesn’t use SMS when communicating with other iPhones.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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In the budget range it's the other way around though. For €300 you get a decent phone with bezelless 120Hz OLED screen. The iPhone SE that is almost €600 doesn't even have any of that. Cool that it's made from finely crafted aluminium but the screen is what I interact with constantly.

When I refer to craftmanship, I'm referring to the software experience. No slugishness, no crashes - everything just works.

You think a modern Android crashes or is sluggish? Because it's not :)
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