This makes all of the interactions look like interrogations. What am I missing?
Same here, my first thought was that it looks like a prison visitation.
Perfect for corporate 1:1s then.
Project Starline expands testing through an early access program
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#112If they've managed to embed the video collector at eye height or close, so the effect of looking at the screen is to be seen as looking at the other person, this is in itself useful. If it's still a non-eyeline camera and they do some adaptive smarts to make it "look" like eyeline I'd be interested how good that is. If they have leveraged peppers ghost and like techniques to make a volume appear to be "occupied" then…
It would be rad if the camera was mounted behind the screen on a track that could move it to wherever the viewers eyes are
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#113I'm struggling to believe Google will see this through beyond a tech demo. And who's the target audience? I mean, what would a unit's cost be? Looks like another cool tech Google won't be able to productize successfully. Edit: I was super excited for Soli way back when, but so far haven't see any smart clothes they were imagining in the early days.
One audience may be courts. A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc). As other commenters have mentioned in this thread, there are lots of unconscious (and fully conscious) biases against interaction over video conference, and a key function of the courts is to eliminate bias…
> A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc).
Interestingly this is the exact opposite of what I've heard: Prisoners are sat in front of low-quality cameras that barely work on a good day, and have a hard time comprehending what's said and being comprehended. "Luckily", that's usually not necessarily in our current system.
If you're comfortable do you mind sharing what court you're talking about?
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
One audience may be courts. A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc). As other commenters have mentioned in this thread, there are lots of unconscious (and fully conscious) biases against interaction over video conference, and a key function of the courts is to eliminate bias…
> A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc). Interestingly this is the exact opposite of what I've heard: Prisoners are sat in front of low-quality cameras that barely work on a good day, and have a hard time comprehending what's said and being comprehended. "Luckily", that's…
I've done a fair bit of work in various courts, prisons, and police stations in NSW (Australia). All (where remote court hearings are performed) have pretty professional Webex setups for dialing in, and there are projects underway to improve this further with dedicated studio booths with active and passive noise cancellation.
It's possible that NSW is the anomaly here, but I suspect that it holds true at least Australia wide, and in some areas abroad.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
> For every product Google kills, it's launched dozens of wildly successful products you've been taking for granted for over a decade in some cases: Gmail, search, Drive, Photos, Chromecast, Chrome, Books, Flights, Scholar, AdSense, Calendar, Docs, Sheets, Keep, Translate, Maps... More like for every 10 products they kill they maybe let one live... Have you not seen killed by google ? > Google can and does support do…
> Have you not seen killed by google ? Yes, we've all seen it. Honestly can we just discuss the tech for once instead of making the same comment 30 times on every Google thread? This sort of video streaming is reminiscent of the "tele-human" teleconferencing in Silicon Valley [1]. Hopefully it works better. It would be timed well as so many companies are looking at working from home right now. Though as with anything…
For the tech to succeed they need to sell to enterprises, scale manufacturing, and be making the right bet on the future of work
In my opinion google has the wrong instincts on all 3.
This is not really a tool for hybrid work (it’s too expensive to deploy in homes) it’s a tool for communicating between offices.
Google is betting on everyone being back in the office at some point.
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#116This is sad because this is a brilliant enterprise product from a company that has few of the fundamentals required to sell it into the enterprise.
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#117Wonder how the folks at https://tonari.no/ feel about this.
If I was writing short term sci-fi, I'd have Starbucks, or some such chain with omnipresence, have bookable meeting rooms with technology like that, so that we can go and have quality meetings across the world at affordable prices.
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#118This is my favorite Google project. I hope it becomes something that we all can use. To me, at least, this is more useful than meeting in vr with no legs.
Definitely more interesting than VR. Or at least, more obviously useful within the next decade than a possible future VR revolution in meetings.
If this is successful I'm guessing it can be scaled down to a home setting. It would bring an excuse to buy that huge screen for a home office.
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#119On the bottom of the video clips, it says: "Not authorized by FCC rules. No sales or leases permitted until authorized."
What is that about? I've never seen it before, and I've seen a lot of stuff. Are they required to print that by some rule I'm unfamiliar with?
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc). Interestingly this is the exact opposite of what I've heard: Prisoners are sat in front of low-quality cameras that barely work on a good day, and have a hard time comprehending what's said and being comprehended. "Luckily", that's…
I've done a fair bit of work in various courts, prisons, and police stations in NSW (Australia). All (where remote court hearings are performed) have pretty professional Webex setups for dialing in, and there are projects underway to improve this further with dedicated studio booths with active and passive noise cancellation. It's possible that NSW is the anomaly here, but I suspect that it holds true at least Austra…
Whoops, I assumed that America is the default again.