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Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by John23832 »

timr wrote: post #43
darkteflon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dude just told us he’s lost his dad, and your second paragraph was “let’s not exaggerate”. Your original comment - sharing your own anecdote - would’ve been better without the second paragraph.

Yes. The fact that someone's father died is tragic. It still doesn't give them carte blanche to exaggerate or emphasize scary anecdotes at the expense of boring ones.

What makes their anecdote "emphasis" or "exaggeration", while yours is jut sharing?

If your anecdote is "boring" or a more normal representation, why share?

It seems like you want to fight to downplay the effects of covid, which is fine, but your approach is totally off.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by timr »

ekianjo wrote: post #56
timr wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The fact that someone's father died is tragic. It still doesn't give them carte blanche to exaggerate or emphasize scary anecdotes at the expense of boring ones.

so your pov is more valid than anyone else's? interesting.

Nope. My story is just as useless as every other anecdote when it comes to evaluating the truth of something like this.

The point is to provide a neutral voice in contrast to the fearful one.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by John23832 »

NickM wrote: post #55
John23832 wrote: post #12

I caught OG covid in June of 2020. I've had it once more (Feb of this year). Exposed a third time but tested negative (who knows about these tests). I've had fatigue, tinnitus, and a persistent neck pain since the Feb infection. What I would consider neurological symptoms as well (extremity weakness, vertigo, headaches). I'm pretty young (31). Prior to Feb, I was pretty active. Weight lifting every day, running 2 mil…

Probably a long shot, but have you ever gotten a Lyme test? Tinnitus is a common symptom if it gets into your nervous system, and the other symptoms you describe fit too. Anecdotally I was having a bunch of bizarre symptoms this summer and thought I had long Covid too, and ended up in the hospital due to heart complications which turned out to be from Lyme. They treated me with the standard antibiotics and I’ve been…

Yup. I've done a extensive blood work for pretty much everything you would think can affect the nervous system (Lyme, ana for Lupus, even Syphilis). Nothing. I've done everything short of a lumbar puncture.

I've not even a health anxiety person. At this point I'm sort of thinking "it is what it is". I'll continue to live life. But the only thing there really is to point to is either covid itself, or some vaccine response.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by throwaway_au_1 »

timr wrote: post #43
darkteflon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dude just told us he’s lost his dad, and your second paragraph was “let’s not exaggerate”. Your original comment - sharing your own anecdote - would’ve been better without the second paragraph.

Yes. The fact that someone's father died is tragic. It still doesn't give them carte blanche to exaggerate or emphasize scary anecdotes at the expense of boring ones.

How were they exaggerating or emphasizing them? Looks pretty matter of fact to me.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by timr »

jonas21 wrote: post #42
timr wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, yes. Exactly. That's my point. I'm sharing the boring story that doesn't get headlines.

I don't object to you sharing your boring story. I do find it hypocritical to say, "let's not exaggerate based on personal anecdotes" while doing the same thing.

Person 1: "the world is coming to an end!"

Person 2: "well, hold on now. Things still seem okay to me."

Person 1: "why are you minimizing it?!?"

I'm not saying that OP isn't telling the truth. I'm not even saying that their story is less representative than mine. I'm just saying that my boring story also exists, and we shouldn't fixate on (i.e. "emphasize") the emotional stories because they're emotional.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by John23832 »

phpthrowaway99 wrote: post #57
ekianjo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry not sure what you are implying here. The boss died of what at 49?

I'm not implying anything. The people that want to use this anecdata for their purposes will say that it's really odd a healthy active guy dying suddenly in his sleep at 49 is very rare when he was operating regularly on Wednesday at work and didn't make it to Thursday. What he actually died of, heart attach or brain aneurysm, or blood clot of some kind doesn't really matter because it fits their narrative either way…

If it's not an implication, and it doesn't matter, then why was it brought up here?

Nobody is denying that people die randomly, the question here is the whether there is a subset of people who have symptoms and die randomly that can be attributed to covid.

It seem like the actual implication is that covid cannot be the cause of anyone's symptoms or deaths and that this is much to do about nothing... which imo to totally rule out covid for anything is absurd.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by phpthrowaway99 »

John23832 wrote: post #66
phpthrowaway99 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not implying anything. The people that want to use this anecdata for their purposes will say that it's really odd a healthy active guy dying suddenly in his sleep at 49 is very rare when he was operating regularly on Wednesday at work and didn't make it to Thursday. What he actually died of, heart attach or brain aneurysm, or blood clot of some kind doesn't really matter because it fits their narrative either way…

If it's not an implication, and it doesn't matter, then why was it brought up here? Nobody is denying that people die randomly, the question here is the whether there is a subset of people who have symptoms and die randomly that can be attributed to covid. It seem like the actual implication is that covid cannot be the cause of anyone's symptoms or deaths and that this is much to do about nothing... which imo to tota…

He never had covid to anyone's knowledge, atleast he never took any time off for it and never showed symptoms. All we know is he was vaccinated, went to the gym, was energetic at work, and died in his sleep.

I was just making a point that covid related anecdata exists on all sides. In response to the guy above me giving out his singular anecdata point.

Edit: also, I had met the guy 3 years ago and talked for 10+ minutes.. and now he's dead at 49. So it was top of mind.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by inferiorhuman »

phpthrowaway99 wrote: post #67
John23832 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's not an implication, and it doesn't matter, then why was it brought up here? Nobody is denying that people die randomly, the question here is the whether there is a subset of people who have symptoms and die randomly that can be attributed to covid. It seem like the actual implication is that covid cannot be the cause of anyone's symptoms or deaths and that this is much to do about nothing... which imo to tota…

He never had covid to anyone's knowledge, atleast he never took any time off for it and never showed symptoms. All we know is he was vaccinated, went to the gym, was energetic at work, and died in his sleep. I was just making a point that covid related anecdata exists on all sides. In response to the guy above me giving out his singular anecdata point. Edit: also, I had met the guy 3 years ago and talked for 10+ minu…

Here's a scary thought: everyone who's ever gotten vaccinated against COVID will die. Eventually. Just like everyone else.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by alxhill »

bsder wrote: post #38
timr wrote: post #23

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I've had it and everyone I know has had it (now in the dozens), including a number of elderly people. Everyone is fine. I recovered in a week, and out of literally dozens of people, I've not met anyone who took longer than that. I'm sorry about your dad, but let's not exaggerate based on personal anecdotes. The stories that get upvoted are the ones that scare people.

> Everyone is fine. I recovered in a week, and out of literally dozens of people, I've not met anyone who took longer than that. Calling bullshit. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01589-z Anybody who lost their sense of taste or smell took months to recover that. Loss of smell or taste is almost 50% for Covid prior to Omicron. Even with Omicron, it's about 20%.

> Anybody who lost their sense of taste or smell took months to recover that. Loss of smell or taste is almost 50% for Covid prior to Omicron. Even with Omicron, it's about 20%.

And yet, in more anecdata, everyone I know who had taste issues recovered them in much less than a month with no long-term impacts.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by artificialLimbs »

bsder wrote: post #38
timr wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had it and everyone I know has had it (now in the dozens), including a number of elderly people. Everyone is fine. I recovered in a week, and out of literally dozens of people, I've not met anyone who took longer than that. I'm sorry about your dad, but let's not exaggerate based on personal anecdotes. The stories that get upvoted are the ones that scare people.

> Everyone is fine. I recovered in a week, and out of literally dozens of people, I've not met anyone who took longer than that. Calling bullshit. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01589-z Anybody who lost their sense of taste or smell took months to recover that. Loss of smell or taste is almost 50% for Covid prior to Omicron. Even with Omicron, it's about 20%.

My mom got her taste back in about 2 weeks.
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