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Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're doing exactly the same thing classichasclass is, but in the opposite direction - and "minimize" seems like a fair antonym of "exaggerate".

Well, yes. Exactly. That's my point. I'm sharing the boring story that doesn't get headlines.

I don't object to you sharing your boring story. I do find it hypocritical to say, "let's not exaggerate based on personal anecdotes" while doing the same thing.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people are, in fact, amplifying things that scare them (or things that trigger emotions). All I've done here is share an equivalent, balancing anecdote.

The dude just told us he’s lost his dad, and your second paragraph was “let’s not exaggerate”. Your original comment - sharing your own anecdote - would’ve been better without the second paragraph.

Yes. The fact that someone's father died is tragic. It still doesn't give them carte blanche to exaggerate or emphasize scary anecdotes at the expense of boring ones.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Never got tested, but my senses of taste and smell changed dramatically about 6 months ago. No other symptoms whatsoever. Everything tastes 'funny' like there it is contaminated with a drop of motor oil or something. Lost about 15 pounds just because I don't particularly feel like eating because it just isn't enjoyable. I usually love the garden tomatoes this time of year, but not this year. I have noticed that it ha…

I am not a doctor, but you might want to investigate the possibility that this is a result of something other than Covid.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Some anecdata... (two doses of Moderna, still haven't gotten the third shot available here and that's on me for not making time) Got covid in the spring, lost my sense of taste, but it started gradually coming back after about six months. Got it again a month ago, lost my senses of smell and taste, also have a persistent cough, persistent tinnitus, tiredness, and more frequent migraines.

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Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Here is the link to the actual study:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33415-5

One thing that immediately leaps out to me is that the profile of "symptoms" is broadly similar between "never infected" and "symptomatic infected" groups, but completely different (much lower across the board) for "asymptomatic infected":

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33415-5/tables/2

There does seem to be elevation vs. controls for certain symptoms (including a few that are mechanistically believable, such as shortness of breath), but because this is self-reported data, it's still hopelessly biased. People who self-identify as sick are going to be more likely to report symptoms than those who do not...which is probably why we see the much lower rates of "long covid" symptoms in the asymptomatic infection group.

At the very least, this should make you question the idea of "long covid" after asymptomatic infection. Based on this data, "long covid" is closer to the symptom profile seen in people who were never infected at all than it is to the symptom profile of people who knew they were infected, but didn't have primary illness.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Seeing people are sharing stories ... I'm a pretty healthy 41-year old, I live in New Zealand, got two Pfizer shots in late 2021, then got Covid in April 2022. It was like a bad flu, but I recovered from the main symptoms after a week or so, and felt drained for another few weeks. So far so good.

But ever since recovering from Covid I've had this tightness/squirming feeling around my stomach/gut at night, and it really hinders my sleep. I've been to the doctor several times. Nothing's wrong with my heart, and nothing major with my gut either; he can't figure out what it is. At this point I'm starting to wonder whether it's psychosomatic, though I'm not an anxious person, and wasn't terribly worried about Covid. The timing definitely coincides with my recovery from Covid. I'm hoping it just goes away eventually...

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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I've had 3 shots of Moderna and got my first infection of COVID 3 weeks later. I've had COVID 2 more times after that, the most recent being about a month ago.

The first two times were sore throat with congestion. The last time was sore throat with congestion and sore joints for a day with fever. All symptoms except for congestion lasted for a day, and congestion lasted for a week. Annoying but nothing more than a bad cold for me.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Alpha ran through my family of 5 around Christmas time, 2020. We were down 4-6 days, that was it. Everyone operating normally since then, my kids play a lot of sports at a high level. I coach, exercise, etc, while not in my best shape ever, it’s mostly cause of limited time. No vaccines, won’t ever get them.

you renegade!

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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"Only a small portion of the study participants — about 4 percent — had been vaccinated before their infections, and many of those with only a single dose." Strong argument for the protective nature of the COVID vaccines. Although the virus certainly appears less damaging now in 2022 as opposed to when it first appeared.

Thats a strange interpretation of the data at hand.
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