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courts award damages based on ... damages
doesn't seem like it
whether you think courts generally award damages appropriately or not is beside the point
The people who released opioids upon the American public didn't get fines like this. Insane
Jones did an impressive job of maximizing his liability directly via his words on the stand. Pharmaceutical companies, in general, know how to listen to their lawyers and shut the hell up.
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Okay bud. The common law has been developing for hundreds of years. It is an extraordinary institution and an important part of Western traditions. At its best, the common law has allowed a finely balanced rule to develop - not in a vacuum, but incrementally and iteratively proven in thousands of real-world cases. Some of the best minds of our civilizations have tussled over these guidelines, and the more lawsuits th…
I much prefer the civil code.
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It's honestly pretty hard to work out what you're trying to assert here. The parent commenter is trying, reasonably, to establish the distinction between "lying" and "defamation". It seems like you're saying "being sued is so expensive the distinction doesn't matter". Ok, sure? That doesn't have anything to do with what they're saying, and, in the context of the grandparent comment --- about libel laws being tightene…
(Pedantic nitpicking) You mean anti -SLAPP laws. For others' curiosity: A SLAPP is Strategic lawsuit against public participation , a strategy for plaintiffs to silence opponents by way of burdening them with an onslaught of lawsuits and hoping they are scared away by potential legal costs of mounting a defense thereby resulting in them just giving up. The potential for this strategy to have chilling effects gave ris…
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It is a statement of my opinion, that rglover is a pedophile, that has personally been involved in sodomizing children in the greater New York metropolitan area, and does so frequently while working on plans to do terrorist activities in that city with a shadowy cabal of mostly (insert ethnicity here) figures. Now, my kind viewers on Hacker News, I have to attest that these are just my opinions, and as such, I cannot…
> I am free to make any statements I please, in any manner I please, and claim protection under the right to free speech Yes, you are. > things like defamation and libel law simply do not exist. I never said they didn't exist.
As someone who's been closely following the Infowars/Free Speech Systems trials (watched all the depos, trial footage, etc.), all I can say is that I'm glad these families are finally getting justice. Even though I'm sure it'll be tied up in appeals for awhile (and reduced on appeal), hopefully it'll prevent future harassment campaigns against families when tragedies occur. And before anyone says "but why wasn't Jone…
First amendment isn’t under attack. Alex Jones isn’t being punished by the govt. Ge attacked people, they responded back. Defamation law has always existed and people can always sue you for libel and slander.
True, but...
> Alex Jones isn’t being punished by the govt.
The courts are part of the government, and Constitutional limits on government power apply to civil liability; the First Amendment, quite notably, restricts the conditions in which defamation liability can be applied.
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Did Hitler personally kill any Jews? Did Putin personally kill any Ukrainians? Sorry to invoke Godwin's law so early.
Did Alex Jones order anyone to do anything? Honest question.
He could have anticipated his actions would lead to these outcomes.
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No, it seems like he has personal assets in the high tens of millions of dollars, and that Free Speech Systems was probably worth into the 9 figures. If the verdict stands, all of that will get wiped out, and the question remaining will be whether the damages, which stem from an intentional tort, will be dischargeable when Jones is forced into bankruptcy non-ironically, rather than using it as a ploy. Still a lot of…
This always confused me, if someone is wiped out in this way how are they able to survive in the aftermath? Isn't this effectively sentencing them to homelessness forever, or is there a floor value in these wins that's always respected which accounts for some minimal cost amount of food+rent? And doesn't the responsibility to pay up remain for money made after the bankruptcy event? Or does declaring bankruptcy ensure…
Not if you have lived in Florida for the past 40 months[0], which is why many professional athletes change their residency to Florida and start the clock on the day they sign their professional contract. It appears Alex missed a trick here.
[0]https://www.floridabankruptcynow.com/floridas-homestead-exem...
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It is a statement of my opinion, that rglover is a pedophile, that has personally been involved in sodomizing children in the greater New York metropolitan area, and does so frequently while working on plans to do terrorist activities in that city with a shadowy cabal of mostly (insert ethnicity here) figures. Now, my kind viewers on Hacker News, I have to attest that these are just my opinions, and as such, I cannot…
> I am free to make any statements I please, in any manner I please, and claim protection under the right to free speech Yes, you are. > things like defamation and libel law simply do not exist. I never said they didn't exist.