Wait. Intel and AMD are both headquartered in Santa Clara, CA?
Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown
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> Who bought a laptop because it had an Intel CPU? If you're a Linux user, Intel integrated graphics have always been the most compatible and most well-supported option.
> If you're a Linux user, Intel integrated graphics have always been the most compatible and most well-supported option. You forgot to add, "worst performing by a mile" to the feature list.
In my experience nvidia with nouveau is slower than Intel with its free driver.
Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown
#253PCs? Gamers (and non-Mac high-end desktop performance users) would seem to be a pretty small slice of the pie these days. I have a high-end current M1 laptop but I do a lot of my work on a couple of 7 year old Intel-based desktop/laptop machines which are perfectly fine although they're about to go out of OS support. (Though I'll probably use them for a few more years anyway.) I remember when you wanted a new PC with…
It's worth noting that Intel has been stuck at a single tick in the processor cycle for... 7-8 years now?
Interestingly, Mac sales are up 40% recently. So I guess a lot of people actually do care -- they just want in on the best laptop processors out there, which are decidedly not offered by Intel.
With no good Windows support for ARM, I'm curious what trends we'll see over the next few years for PCs. Will they languor in their current state, using Intel's hot n' heavy processors? Will some manufacturers switch to ARM + Linux solutions to offer battery life and heat generation competitive with the Mac?
Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown
#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Who bought a laptop because it had an Intel CPU? If you're a Linux user, Intel integrated graphics have always been the most compatible and most well-supported option.
> If you're a Linux user, Intel integrated graphics have always been the most compatible and most well-supported option. You forgot to add, "worst performing by a mile" to the feature list.
A slow functioning video card is still better than a fast video card that doesn't work.
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"Intel Inside" worked..
I wonder if it did? Who bought a laptop because it had an Intel CPU? I know I always bought Intel laptops because Intel laptops were the only things available, not because I have some high view of Intel as a brand. I imagine the vast majority of laptop buyers wouldn't even know what an Intel is.
it absolutely worked.
the pentiums were a huge leap from the amd 386/486 and cyrix options. 'Intel Inside' was basically a premium-product differentiator for those that could afford it, and that was well understood by consumers at the time.
Ferrari/Gucci/Armani/Rolex/Louis Roederer labels also help to push product. Same phenomenon, people didn't buy Intel strictly because it was needed for specific workloads, they bought it because of the fancy sticker that differentiated their product from cheaper alternatives; even if the person didn't know thing-one about computers or CPUs.
It sounds corny, but having lived through it I can vouch that things are really that stupid.
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>historically high employment rates People will believe any statistic that aligns with their mindset. Unemployment rates are at historical lows within a small margin, it's been 50 years since unemployment has been lower (i.e. something like 60% of Americans have not seen lower unemployment in their whole lives), and since the WWII war economy that they've been significantly lower (i.e. almost nobody alive).
What's the difference between historically high employment rates and historically low unemployment rates?
(employment rate) = (employed people) / (total people)
(unemployment rate) = (people not currently working, but actively looking) / (total people)
The first includes all people, the second excludes those not working, but also not looking.
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a company that has low profit and employees a lot of people as a lot more beneficial for society than the opposite
is *
Geez I wrote everything wrong
a company that has low profit and many employees is a lot more beneficial for society than the opposite
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I wonder if it did? Who bought a laptop because it had an Intel CPU? I know I always bought Intel laptops because Intel laptops were the only things available, not because I have some high view of Intel as a brand. I imagine the vast majority of laptop buyers wouldn't even know what an Intel is.
Intel marketing is NOT aimed at customers. It’s aimed at Dell and HP et al.
Then why did they (used to) run ads during prime time TV shows? Was that the only chance to get product buys from Michael Dell?
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#259I think this is the first major layoff announcement at a big, established tech firm I've heard this year that is anywhere near this size. I mean, there have been loads of "couple hundred" employee layoffs, and certainly a lot of hiring slowdown/freezes, but again, haven't seen anything else near this big, and the layoffs previously seem to have been concentrated in unprofitable VC-funded companies. I know Tesla laid…
I've read that currently the semi industry is in the negative part of a cycle.
Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown
#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Who bought a laptop because it had an Intel CPU? If you're a Linux user, Intel integrated graphics have always been the most compatible and most well-supported option.
> If you're a Linux user, Intel integrated graphics have always been the most compatible and most well-supported option. You forgot to add, "worst performing by a mile" to the feature list.
nothing much slower than when an nvidia dkms process fails silently and you're left without video options at next boot -- something that generally can't happen with intel-video/linux.
I get your point, but intel video options perform on par or better with regards to the most common consumer video rendering demands at this point. Video acceleration and high resolutions and multiple displays are well covered -- not everyone needs to process GPGPU workloads and play the newest games at 90FPS.