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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by sosodev »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #309
endtime wrote: post #282

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Have you tried a Pixel? I've been happily using them for years.

Pixels have unusually high rates of hardware and software problems over time. The reliability isn't there. The current issue of the month is random failure to call emergency services. If you randomly experience this problem, you could call 911 over and over, dozens of times, without success. It also doesn't matter if you have 4/4 bars. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel…

I don't know why you're being downvoted. They most certainly have had historically poor build quality. My Pixel 2 began boot looping after a couple of years of use and apparently that was motherboard quality issue that had been around since the Nexus line. I got a replacement and it happened again after another few months. Google "Pixel 2 bootloop" and you'll find thousands of threads from people with this issue.

That was around four years ago. I switched to an iPhone 11 and have had a fraction of the problems that I had with Android phones.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by rootusrootus »

alphabetting wrote: post #317
rootusrootus wrote: post #312

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Tapbacks on text messages work on the iPhone side too. I just had the occasion to try that a few days ago.

It doesn't say "so and so has liked your post" on Iphone when someone has Android in a group chat now?

That's not the permutation I tried, so maybe in group chats it still happens that way. But in a 1:1 chat it worked fine.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by Retric »

est31 wrote: post #296
gleenn wrote: post #223

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Citation needed. Is this really true? I keep hearing about RCS etc but I also keep hearing it's not actually a good standard. Not even sure it does encryption frankly.

There is nobody preventing Apple from developing an Android app for iMessage. They already have a bunch of apps on the play store, including one for Apple TV, Beats, and a migration app for iOS. https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Apple

Apple can’t provide the same assurance that an android app is secured.

The degree that matters is of course debatable, but it is one of their talking points.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by poglet »

binkHN wrote: post #184
fortylove wrote: post #44

I tried avoiding the iPhone bandwagon for practically a decade, going from flip phone to the HTC Droid Incredible, to some HTC M , to Samsung S4, and then a series of Pixel phones, starting with the OG Pixel, and ending with the Pixel 3. I have to say: besides a few clunky swipe experiences, the iPhone is better in every single way. The camera opens when I click the camera button. The phone pairs wonderfully with my…

> ...Pixel 3. ... The camera opens when I click the camera button. I still have a Pixel 5 and one of my favorite features is double pressing the power button to activate the camera. It works so well that my camera is ready to go before I have even focused on the subject. I don’t know if this feature is available on an iPhone.

It's not available.

On the iPhone you need to take it out of your pocket, wake up the screen by tapping it once, or lifting it to some angle that the screen turns on. Then you need to long press the on screen camera button.

If you enabled the double tap, you still need to take it out of your pocket and wake up the screen before you can double tap.

On Android you could have the camera ready before the phone is even out of your pocket.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by alpaca128 »

mberning wrote: post #188
heavyset_go wrote: post #24

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We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

You act as if they don’t make cheap and relatively accessible phones. They do. iphone se is a perfectly good phone that can be bought new for $400. Sure it’s not at the absolute bottom end of the market, but it is fairly accessible when you compare it to their flagship phones.

Just because manufacturers have inflated the prices over the years that doesn't make $400 cheap.

My current $200 phone is better in every aspect than the high end flagship phones not too long ago. With its performance and features it's still far from the low end.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by gaudat »

testermelon wrote: post #303
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

I read your comment to my wife and her response was “what is a green bubble?”. We are living in Japan and here we only use Discord, WhatsApp, and Line for messaging.

I think the mobile phone market in Japan is also dominated by iPhones now?

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

reiichiroh wrote: post #239
retrac wrote: post #176

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A new unlocked iPhone 13 Mini device is $850 in Canada. I can buy an unlocked Android smartphone for under $80 that'll do what I need. Though I splurged and spent just under $200 on my last phone. Something that costs 4x as much as a decent mid-range model that will meet most people's needs is luxury. Most people do not purchase phones and service plans the way I do (separately - I buy an unlocked device up-front the…

The 128GB Samsung S20FE is $475 CAD today

Well you’re paying for the Samsung brand I guess. There are plenty of cheap and usable Android phones.

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Post by sosodev »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #153
eatsyourtacos wrote: post #116

I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

I see this a lot around here. HN user hates company with a passion but buys their products rather than deal with some minor annoyance. I guess you don't hate Apple with a passion then.

I think you might be understating "minor annoyance". I don't like Amazon but I often buy niche products from them because I'll get them in days instead of months.

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Post by dwild »

threatofrain wrote: post #115
heavyset_go wrote: post #24

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We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

What is the difference to Nike providing kids with flashy shoes when the sole purpose is class and coolness? According to the same report, Nike is the most preferred fashion brand among teens. At least with Apple's message indication you know you're getting encryption and thus privacy from carriers. Would it be less problematic if Apple simply mentioned "warning: this is unencrypted SMS"?

> What is the difference to Nike providing kids with flashy shoes when the sole purpose is class and coolness?

Maybe what Nike is doing is just as bad...

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by LocalPCGuy »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #309
endtime wrote: post #282

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Have you tried a Pixel? I've been happily using them for years.

Pixels have unusually high rates of hardware and software problems over time. The reliability isn't there. The current issue of the month is random failure to call emergency services. If you randomly experience this problem, you could call 911 over and over, dozens of times, without success. It also doesn't matter if you have 4/4 bars. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel…

Pixels may have what seems to be an unusually high rate of problems over time if you judge things by anecdotes on Reddit. There are many more folks just puttering away on their Pixel oblivious that there are any issues at all (or even posting their own anecdotes in response to the anecdotes about problems telling folks that their Pixel is fine). But they don't generally show up leading the pack in industry reports from the folks repairing phones, at least the ones I've looked at.

Every manufacturer has some level of issues, Google sure seems to be about average. I will say that their insistence on automated (read: poor) support can sometimes exasperate problems (which then leads to more anecdotes being posted).

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