"No objective test can confirm or rule out the diagnosis of ADHD" [1] "hyperactive impulsive and/or inattentive symptoms for at least 6 months...five or more for adults...no other disorder better explains the symptoms" Probably the most well-organized effort in the world to push drugs. If they work for you without side effects, good for you. But all drugs have side effects. Would I would to mess with my dopamine leve…
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#92"No objective test can confirm or rule out the diagnosis of ADHD" [1] "hyperactive impulsive and/or inattentive symptoms for at least 6 months...five or more for adults...no other disorder better explains the symptoms" Probably the most well-organized effort in the world to push drugs. If they work for you without side effects, good for you. But all drugs have side effects. Would I would to mess with my dopamine leve…
I wear glasses to see better. Not that much different to be honest. It optimizes much more than productivity.
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#93"No objective test can confirm or rule out the diagnosis of ADHD" [1] "hyperactive impulsive and/or inattentive symptoms for at least 6 months...five or more for adults...no other disorder better explains the symptoms" Probably the most well-organized effort in the world to push drugs. If they work for you without side effects, good for you. But all drugs have side effects. Would I would to mess with my dopamine leve…
“Optimising economic output” is the last thing most ADHD people are looking for. Being able to live day to day without nerve-shredding vertiginous chaos touching every part of one’s life is much stronger a motivation.
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#94I feel like there has to be other under explored methods of treating ADHD aside from medication. I’ve yet to find any for myself, but am also incredibly hesitant to medicate my symptoms away. I’ve tried stimulants in the past and was left feeling like I traded one issue (lack of concentration and executive function) for another (racing thought and elevated heart rate). I do see CBT mentioned, but only as an adjunct t…
> racing thought and elevated heart rate
This sounds an awful lot like either your dosage was too high or you’re one of the people with ADHD who doesn’t actually respond well to stimulants. Elevated heart rate/blood pressure is common and responsible doctors prescribing these drugs check it routinely, but racing thoughts is not a typical reaction at an appropriate dose.
Regarding other methods, one common but less formal thing that has helped me, and which I’ve seen benefit a lot of friends and others diagnosed later in life: developing and nurturing an awareness of the kinds of coping mechanisms that are already present, with close attention to which are helpful but could be developed further and to which are counterproductive or just neutral so they might be put aside.
For myself, I’ve realized that there’s a couple common threads through most of my helpful coping mechanisms. Foremost among them: keeping consistent routines is kind of a house of cards, but one which is much more resilient for me if I allow myself to be fairly rigid about them. Another: having a high degree of control over the sensory stimulation I’m exposed to, especially but not only sound, is one of my best defenses against cognitive overload.
These coping mechanisms vary by person but they often cluster around the kinds of problem areas that ADHD patients notice rather than the external problem areas that tend to lead to childhood diagnosis (or internalized self judgment reflecting real or perceived external judgment regardless of diagnosis age). As in, “why does ____ cause me to struggle and what’s been most effective when I do struggle?” tends to be a better starting point than “why can’t I just do ____ like normal people seem to do?” If nothing else, it gives you a chance to have self empathy and recognize that there are reasons and that you may already have a framework for those reasons, even if you haven’t noticed it yet.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's sorta like the effect of caffeine on me. It's not only not a stimulant, but if I take in too much, I straight up get drowsy.
Same for me. A mug of British tea will rehydrate and refresh me a bit, but a cup of black coffee makes me ready for a nap in 30 minutes!
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#96Site could use some polish but IMO it's not that bad or somehow "worse" because I have ADHD. Nothing factually wrong or biased stands out. It's a standard meta-analysis that finds that most treatment theories have no or limited evidence. I think it's beneficial overall to have the research on ADHD in one place even if it has little practical advice. While it might seem like ADHD is a very normalized condition, there'…
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#97One of the recommendations, CBT, is inspired by NLP (heavily). I can say that NLP did wonders for me. Site is attrocious :)
That's really interesting that neuro linguistic programming helped you so much. I don't want to inquire into your own experiences as it's personal. But, I used to follow NLP very closely and sort of lost interest over time. Anyway, I felt it was best suited to 'software' changes in oneself - say at level of beliefs about the world, and how our use of symbols and language can affect our experience and abilities. ADHD,…
Did I fix everything, no, not at all. I still have serious ADHD issues but compared to where I was, it is night and day and if I had not run into NLP books and studied them and applied, I probably would live pretty limited and miserable life now.
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#98> Surprisingly, data show that sugar consumption does not worsen symptoms of ADHD. Surprisingly? Sugar consumption is known to help with symptoms of ADHD, as do other dopamine-inducing activities, which makes perfect sense to me. The problem with sugar is that it has a pretty high cost due to all its other effects on the body, that its dopamine hit wears off pretty fast and you quickly build up a tolerance, which is…
That's sorta like the effect of caffeine on me. It's not only not a stimulant, but if I take in too much, I straight up get drowsy.
Caffeine with medication (Methylphenidate) works just like caffeine does for most (neurotypical) people.
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#99> This information War on ADHD stigmatizes affected people, On the contrary I see tons of accommodations made by both private and public organizations. Many, many people seem to enjoy diagnosing themselves with this condition. Can someone point to evidence of stigmatization?
I thought I was just depressed for 20 years and had a hard enough time trying to cover that up. I work in an industry that is built on trust through repeated execution and excellence - Management Consulting
It's thinking work. Any mental "impairment" could reasonably be classified as effecting that consistent repeatability with certainty.
Dysregulation of attention and emotion means your ability to execute is not always in your control, and sometimes you will take longer, or make mistakes, or sometimes you hit it right out of the park... but too far - you are seen as being inconsistent. Your ups and downs are much more frequent and often in severity than the general population (that's what makes it a disorder)
A lot of people partition you in the "too-hard" to deal with pile. They don't know what to do with you, how to use you effectively.
Covering up for this, masking, takes a huge amount of additional effort and drains you physically and mentally.
Yes my organization champions the importance of diversity, even neurodiversity because diverse teams work better and deliver better results. Yes I have access to some accommodations, but my work is project based, I get pulled onto things by others. If they subconsciously have a bias towards putting me on something because they are afraid of that inconsistency when the stakes are already high, then I'll likely be looked over. Not everyone, but many. You're a risk. A liability.
I have a friend. An incredible lawyer. Here undiagnosed ADHD and diagnosed depression meant she had to take some time off due to being completely burnt out. She disclosed it to her employer. She was pressured into signing an NDA before later being fired because the partner couldn't "trust" or "deal with" her not always being available. The NDA meant that she couldn't speak publicly about it or sue her former employer for wrongful dismissal. It ruined her career.
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#100I feel like there has to be other under explored methods of treating ADHD aside from medication. I’ve yet to find any for myself, but am also incredibly hesitant to medicate my symptoms away. I’ve tried stimulants in the past and was left feeling like I traded one issue (lack of concentration and executive function) for another (racing thought and elevated heart rate). I do see CBT mentioned, but only as an adjunct t…
It depends on what the thoughts are as to what will work best, if they are beliefs or schemas about yourself, random ideas or memories. What they are could mean they have a different purpose.
I have them regardless of treatment, mostly ideas for things to research, or questions to answer or creative things, sometimes I just need to record them and know they are captured somewhere. Like a voice recorder. Because years of trying to remember things means when I have an idea, sometimes, I'll run it over and over and over again to make sure it doesn't get lost. Capturing it and putting it somewhere safe means I can let myself move on more easily.
I do have elevated blood pressure that is now slightly on the "hmmmm lets watch that" side, but I had very healthy blood pressure to begin with and can thankfully adequately manage it with some medication.