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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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This claim seems a little odd to me. I searched more about it and found this article: https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/06/gen-z-survey-says... from January saying the exact same thing as this fall survey, and this article form 2020 which says it was 86%: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland/apple-rules-86-pe... . I can't find an estimate for teen iPhone ownership besides this company but this just seems…

If not owning an iPhone really makes you the social outcast that some comments here are suggesting maybe people don't even admit to it for a marketing survey. It's like a survey on how may times you have sex in a month.

> It's like a survey on how may times you have sex in a month.

Exactly like, for teenagers. Their answers tend to either aspirational or lies.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Who tf uses imessage? Its all whatsapp, telegram or fb messenger or discord here. Sweden. SMS is not used. Only for... passwords, spam and reminders for packages.

87% of american teens imessage/sms/texting is king in the US

How sad.

Its gonna come here too. And probably is here already but I am an out of touch old man. We love to ape america and all the kids wanna be in eupohria on hbo.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

This is quite frankly utter bullshit unless there is a lack of parenting going on i.e. you brought your kids up to be judgy assholes.

My kids and their friends have a right mix of all sorts of phones. They don't even talk about it. They just work out how to deal with it. Mostly that results in them picking a common platform, usually Discord or Snapchat and using that.

This is not a technology issue!

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

They would rather be dead than be uncool! Yikes.

What astonishes me is how the mind of teens just cannot palpate the world they live in. Not to plagiarize Louis CK but even with an android flagship in their hands at 14, being cast away due to strange techno/market forces is enough to forget everything and suffer.

in 2050 kids will storm out because their pocket nuclear fusor isn't the trendiest. 'thanks moooom'

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

You act as if they don’t make cheap and relatively accessible phones. They do. iphone se is a perfectly good phone that can be bought new for $400. Sure it’s not at the absolute bottom end of the market, but it is fairly accessible when you compare it to their flagship phones.

Apple phones also last long enough, barring accidents, that if the adults are using iPhones, the kids can probably get hand-me-downs that're still usable and receiving updates for at least a couple years.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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It's just a line in the article, the data isn't provided. This is the source of the headline quote: > 87% of teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone; 31% of teens own an Apple Watch And sorry, but that's just laughably wrong. Even in my teen's upper middle class school of tech scions, the penetration of any kind of phone sits somewhere around 50%. And I don't think I've even seen a smart watc…

Why is this laughably wrong? Why is this so hard to believe? Also, why would being a tech scion mean that you wouldn't want to use an iPhone? If anything, I'd argue that being in tech makes you appreciate the benefits of having an iPhone.

> Also, why would being a tech scion mean that you wouldn't want to use an iPhone?

I think this is the opposite of what the person who is replying to you is saying. I'm going to disagree with both of you and say that I think that the kids of techies would be far less likely to have an iPhone, because they're more likely to judge technology on its merits rather than on marketing (for the same reason that both of my parents being programmers made me a programmer.) On the merits, iPhone/Android is going to be closer to a 50/50 split than an 87/13 split.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

iPhones are amazing, and there are definitely a few brands of Android-based phones that also deserve to be called amazing. iMessage definitely helped, at a time when SMS sucked and nobody (not Google) was stepping in to improve the situation, but they also crush Androids in accessibility and ease of use all day. Something that gets teenagers hooked early...

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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There is no sane technologically educated person who will buy Apple or Google phone. It is obvious that the smartphones are data gathering and control tools for the surveillance economy. Degoogled smartphone with limited usage is the safest bet for now. Apple computers are still valuable, when configured properly, but I don't have a high hopes for the future. Apple will lock whatever they can to "protect" the bottoml…

I am with you, but remember, you are preaching to their employees or at least employee-wannabees in here. :-)
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