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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by _ea1k »

m348e912 wrote: post #8
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

Apple is the new Microsoft.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by sho_hn »

tiborsaas wrote: post #25
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

What's a "green bubble"?

In iMessage, which seems to be a thing in the USA (I don't know of any other market where it's a dominant messaging system), non-iPhone users participating via SMS appear to iPhone users with a different (green) background color to their message bubbles.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by metadat »

tiborsaas wrote: post #25
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

What's a "green bubble"?

See today's other story:

One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33176668

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by zuppy »

atonse wrote: post #10
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

I love the idea that somewhere, there are a bunch of high-priced antitrust lawyers having multi-hour serious discussions and debates about green and blue bubbles.

and what would those lawyers do? green just means sms. if you disable iMessage you should get that on iPhones too. there has to be a way to differentiate the method of sending texts, as they may incur some costs in some markets.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by robbyking »

localhost wrote: post #42
heavyset_go wrote: post #24

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We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

There is quite a healthy market for used iPhones if you're talking about the blue bubble phenomenon.

Yeah, my son is entirely too young for a phone right now, but my wife and my plan is to just upgrade every few years and give him one of our old phones. It wasn't too long ago that we did the same thing for our parents.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by lijogdfljk »

nsxwolf wrote: post #32
m348e912 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

Given the iPhone's marketshare, is it RCS really the industry standard?

Does the iPhone have a standard that other phones could adopt? Ie is your argument that Apple has been pushing an alternate standard, but Google is rejecting it? If so what is it?

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Post by [deleted] »

travisgriggs wrote: post #56
m348e912 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

Naive question here. What's the encryption story here with RCS? What I like about iMessage is that I feel its relatively secure. Given the choice of trusting Apple vs a Frankenstein arrangement between Android and the various carriers, I'm inclined to go with Apple, unfair practices aside.

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